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Los Angeles in 2007 had the fewest homicides in nearly 40 years
Mecurynews.com ^ | 1/3/08 | The Associated Press

Posted on 01/03/2008 2:12:43 PM PST by dragnet2

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To: dragnet2
I know all about the border towns. I know of the problems in Cali as well. When you're far from the border (as I am now) its a different story.

Big problem up here are the young adults who were born in the crack epidemic and the "second baby boom" that seemed to occur in the Section 8's in the 1990s despite welfare reform. Most of these folks are native born.

41 posted on 01/03/2008 4:13:24 PM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: dragnet2

Thanks.


42 posted on 01/03/2008 4:14:12 PM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: DoughtyOne

Your welcome. Your post was accurate and right on target in regards to why this has occurred. Specifically California’s mandatory minimum sentencing guide lines and 3 strikes.


43 posted on 01/03/2008 4:39:08 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: ex-snook

Yes. And when he left, Rudy remained and crime continued to go down.


44 posted on 01/03/2008 4:42:24 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: ex-snook
Is this the same Bratton that cleaned up NYC for which Giuliani is grabbing the credit?

This is the same Bratton who when asked on LA Radio "why his officers refused to arrest illegal immigrants ..." (special order 40). Bratton angrily told the caller " the LAPD is out of the immigration business and if the caller did not like it the caller could leave the state ..."

This is just months after this carpet bagger hits town he's publically telling Los Angeles taxpayers that if they expect the LAPD to do the job they are paid to do then get the hell out of the state!

Bratton is an ass.

Regards

45 posted on 01/03/2008 5:23:23 PM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: Strategerist
Los Angeles County murders are down too - not as much, but it’s simply caused by people moving outside the city, it seems.

That's a fact Jack! I wonder what the Riverside murder numbers are like these days.

Regards

46 posted on 01/03/2008 5:25:27 PM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: Albion Wilde
Respectfully, as someone who lives in LA, Bratton is a self serving political jerk with his nose so far up the Mayor of the Mexicans, Tony Villaragosa’s butt it’s gonna take surgery to separate them. (Below from post#45)

This is the same Bratton who when asked on LA Radio “why his officers refused to arrest illegal immigrants ...” (special order 40). Bratton angrily told the caller “ the LAPD is out of the immigration business and if the caller did not like it the caller could leave the state ...”

This is just months after this carpet bagger hits town he’s publicly telling Los Angeles taxpayers that if they expect the LAPD to do the job they are paid to do then get the hell out of the state!

Bratton is an ass.

Regards

47 posted on 01/03/2008 5:34:23 PM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: Clemenza
in the case of the truly bad crimes (murder, rape) it aint the illegals doing it, at least not in Jersey.

I'd venture that there's a substantial overrepresentation of illegals on this list, and the crimes are mostly of the "truly bad" sort: www.lapdonline.org/all_most_wanted
48 posted on 01/03/2008 5:37:13 PM PST by ruination
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To: ARE SOLE
This is the same Bratton who when asked on LA Radio “why his officers refused to arrest illegal immigrants ...” (special order 40). Bratton angrily told the caller “ the LAPD is out of the immigration business and if the caller did not like it the caller could leave the state ...”

As a former contractor for a large municipal PD, I learned about Bratton's excellent use of data technology when he was in NY and formed a high opinion of his management skills from that point of view. Your description of his illegals-coddling is new info for me, and it's a definite turn-off. Thanks.

49 posted on 01/03/2008 7:12:45 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("Whatever enables us to go to war, secures our peace." —Thomas Jefferson)
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To: dragnet2
Data is pretty easy to manipulate. I'd rather not live in Los Angeles or Houston (unless it was the Woodlands).

I lived in Dallas for 6 years and it's a great town to live in if you are single and making a little money. Just have to stay away from SOC and the area around Baylor Med Center near downtown.

I agree with the post earlier that mentioned 3 strikes and full sentencing. That when you lock up criminals and throw away the key...... well heck. Your crime rate goes down.

50 posted on 01/03/2008 7:22:35 PM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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I agree with the post earlier that mentioned 3 strikes and full sentencing. That when you lock up criminals and throw away the key...... well heck. Your crime rate goes down.

You bet. Thanks to California’s mandatory minimum sentencing guide lines and 3 strikes law. Should have been implemented nation wide.

Now if we could only start executing the brutal murderers. Of course we put Tookie Williams to bed not long ago.

I guess for now we'll have to settle for locking them in cages.

51 posted on 01/03/2008 7:30:36 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: ARE SOLE
I seem to recall that. Crime is down...But not directly due to what Bratton has done.

And I never liked the department going outside of it's ranks to fill that position. It was a pure political decision.

52 posted on 01/03/2008 7:36:13 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: ARE SOLE

Good question, one that we both probably know the answer to.


53 posted on 01/03/2008 7:39:44 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Recently I have tried to explain to some members that LA major crime is way down and has considerably less crime than most major cities in others states. Some just refused to believe.

Has anyone recently checked out Harbor City, San Pedro, Wilmington and Harbor Gateway?


54 posted on 01/03/2008 9:27:42 PM PST by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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To: dragnet2

Forty years ago, when Samuel W.Yorty, one of the last conservative Democrats, was mayor, Los Angeles enjoyed low unemployment as well as low housing costs—as noted by the pop singer Neil Diamond in his 1971 hit record, “I am, I Said.” Crime was also kept at a relatively low rate by an efficient police department led by tough, no-nonsense police chiefs such as William H. Parker, Tom Reddin, and Ed Davis.

After Tom Bradley, a left-leaning Democrat, ousted Yorty in 1973, one of his first acts was to cut funding for the police department. One doesn’t need a Ph. D. in social science to figure out what would follow.


55 posted on 01/03/2008 9:59:50 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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Everything changed after Yorty, much like the rest of the country changed in many respects during that era.

led by tough, no-nonsense police chiefs such as William H. Parker

Speaking of Bill Parker, I met him and he let me sit at his desk while he was the Chief. At the time Daryl Gates was his personal driver. I think I was all of 14 at the time. Big changes since that period.

56 posted on 01/03/2008 11:06:54 PM PST by dragnet2
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