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A vote for Duncan Hunter or Fred could also have been a socially conservative vote. But it also would have been a vote for closed borders, lower taxes, 2nd amendment rights, traditional marriage, and a better choice to kick the raghead head choppers in the teeth. I'm sure the Huckster is a nice man and probably a capable preacher, but we are voting for more than that. Tancredo was right on EVERY issue I ever heard him talk about, but was labeled a one issue candidate. A very important issue, but still only one. He was the first one out, and Hunter and Fred aren't getting much traction.

I've said since the beginning, if Guliani or Mitt is the candidate, most likely enough evangelicals will stay home or vote 3rd party, we will have a Dimwit as president. They don't want Hillary or Obama, but they don't have anyone to vote FOR. If the Repubs want to go back to oblivion, just stick with tax cuts and Wall Street and ignore the social issues. Most Christians can't tell the difference between Guliani and Hillary. We have a different measuring stick. Republicans couldn't win anything until they got fed up with immoral, unpatriotic, paganistic, diversity, claptrap. Then they got traction from people that had some core belief systems. All belief systems are not equal. These "people" are not throw away's. We will be a permanent minority party if the Repubs think killing babies or anal sex is a "moderate" position. The "solid south" turned Republican when they got fed up with flag burning, gun grabbing, baby killing, communist leaning, prayer forbidding, God hating, fag lovers. These blue collar workers weren't changing parties by a tax cut proposal.

If the Repubs think Guliani or Bloomberg is a "good" Republican, their asses will be handed to them. They had better court the social conservatives or they will die a slow mediocre death.