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Clinton's Supporters Question Her Strategy
Washington Post ^ | January 5, 2008 | By Anne E. Kornblut, Jonathan Weisman and Paul Kane

Posted on 01/05/2008 12:41:21 AM PST by JohnHuang2

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To: JohnHuang2
Having read the WaPo article and then taken a shower, it appears to me Senator Clinton is in denial and refuses to acknowledge the reason for her poor showing in Iowa.

Her, "I'm the one with years of experience" and, "I'm the one that can implement change" mantras apparently fell on pretty much deaf ears.

From the article:

The message to the lawmakers [on a conference call Friday morning] was that the campaign will tweak the message to focus on equal parts experience and how to effect change. "It requires experience to bring change," Howard Wolfson, Clinton's top communications adviser, told the lawmakers, according to one participant in the call.

Pardon me, but isn't that the same mantra they used in Iowa? Seems to me the thing that should be changing is Senator Clinton's strategy.

21 posted on 01/05/2008 4:53:24 AM PST by upchuck (Attention Senator Clinton: Lying Is Stupid When The Truth Is So Easy To Find)
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To: Caipirabob

Wasn’t that delicious reading? Poor Hillary.


22 posted on 01/05/2008 5:00:22 AM PST by CaliGirl-R
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To: Caipirabob

“This country has tilted so far to the left it no longer resembles the nation we grew up in. The Republican party is now the Democrat party of our youth: Big government and socialist. The Democrat party is tilted so far to the left that they have literally become dangerous.”
“Our political role has been to hold fast to our values, the same upon which this nation is founded, and that which the left seeks to destroy by attrition, tyranny and open treason.”

My thoughts exactly and have been for a long time. Well said.
At my age, I will be long gone when all the drastic changes will occur and be cemented in so my concern is for the ones that will be here after I am gone.
My generation had the best this country had to offer and I can only hope and pray it gets back to where it use to be.
IMHO the ones that should be concerned are not paying close attention and their sovereignty is being taken away from them little by little.


23 posted on 01/05/2008 5:02:15 AM PST by depenzz (" GO........KEWL HAND FRED")
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To: JohnHuang2

Can any of her supporters recognize that rather than the thoroughbred they thought she was, she is, in fact, an old nag headed for the glue factory? I guess they might be reluctant to admit that to the lamestream media.


24 posted on 01/05/2008 5:06:36 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds ("You ask, 'What is our aim?' I can answer in one word: VICTORY - victory - at all costs...")
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To: JohnHuang2
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25 posted on 01/05/2008 5:30:59 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: JohnHuang2

Ah, Strategy! That’s the problem. Never thought of that. I just suspected that it was because she was a lying, socialist, bi**h.


26 posted on 01/05/2008 5:45:31 AM PST by jammer
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To: JohnHuang2

Looks like the Barbara Streisand hoopla didn’t pan out for Hillary. Maybe Hillary should bring on Rosie to the podium.


27 posted on 01/05/2008 6:03:31 AM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: Caipirabob

Amen to every word of your post.


28 posted on 01/05/2008 6:15:03 AM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: JohnHuang2

While savoring the Hillary debacle- I’ve thought about her alternative.

Here’s what’s worrying me- we don’t have an Obama. It’s too early to know if this is a trend- but consider that in Iowa 10’s of thousands of NEW voters registered and caucused- for OBAMA. They are young, they are passionate and they are idealistic. IF that catches on- if young people really do start becoming active- who are they going for? What they perceive as a party of war-mongering, greedy, Bible-thumpers? Or the hope-filled, young, articulate, black guy?

Huckabee may be the least of our worries.


29 posted on 01/05/2008 6:15:12 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: JohnHuang2
Seems like all election "analysis" starts with an assumption: "Candidate x is losing because s/he is doing something wrong." The corollary is that if candidate x did everything right, s/he would be winning.

I believe that's wrong. Some candidates just aren't marketable. Hillary may be one of those people who, the more voters see of her, the less they like her. You can be handed a NY Senate seat by hiding the candidate but not the Presidency. For some, there's no winning strategy.

30 posted on 01/05/2008 6:30:43 AM PST by Dilbert56 (Harry Reid, D-Nev.: "We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.")
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To: CaliGirl-R
I just read on tmz.com that she’s going to listen to her handlers and start dressing more feminine.

Good. I hope she keeps taking that advice. It will only highlight the extent to which she, like Gore and Kerry, lacks authenticity and sense of self. People value that, even if subconsciously. It's uncomfortable being around someone who never settles in to being themselves.

The constant superficial tinkerings are jarring; much more unsettling to the populace at large than any failures of stylishness. IMHO, the much-maligned pantsuit is at least consistent and signals some level of confidence and sense of self. Her handlers cannot succeed in making her look stylish and feminine. They will only make her look vain and flighty.

And her face. She has no one to blame but herself (and her handlers) for the petty criticisms about her wrinkles and sags. By alternately showing up one day all dewy-faced and taut, then the next day wrinkled and haggard, she underscores the startling contrast, practically demanding the difference be noted. If she'd simply decided on one or the other--a real 60 year old woman subject to the same laws of gravity as the rest of the world, or air-brushed ingenue--she'd have been much better off. Just pick a look already. She's like a strobe light giving everyone a headache.

On the other hand, maybe her handlers DO know what they're doing. Obsessive attention to her appearance du jour does keep the focus off what she's actually saying, which is far more off-putting than a dowdy pantsuit or crepey skin.

31 posted on 01/05/2008 6:46:32 AM PST by Eroteme
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To: Dilbert56

Good analysis. There are intangibles that simply cannot be packaged. If I were confident in a 100% fair election, I’d be wholly unconcerned about the prospect of President Hillary. Unfortunately, I’m not.


32 posted on 01/05/2008 6:55:22 AM PST by Eroteme
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To: samtheman

“Camp Clinton is about to get medieval on Obama’s ass.”

Yup. And Bill is signaling that the devil (right wing conspiracy) is making them do it. Hill is saying that she’s been “vetted” and found “innocent” code words for here it comes.

If there is any dirt in Obambi’s past, get ready for a mud bath. Let’s start a pool on the name of Obambi’s Monica. I have five bucks that says it’s Nancy.

On the bright side, it’s better the Clinton’s slime Obambi than us.


33 posted on 01/05/2008 6:56:50 AM PST by y6162
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To: JohnHuang2

The problem isn’t strategy, it’s the candidate. If her name were Hillary Smith, she’d have never even entered the race.


34 posted on 01/05/2008 6:58:47 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: y6162

As Dick Morris points out, she’ll clumsily come off as racist. He’s not “ready”, he not “electable” etc.


35 posted on 01/05/2008 7:00:46 AM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: JohnHuang2

No why in the world would her supports question anything this woman does? After all, Bill says she is a “world class” genius.

This world class genius who didn’t know that Pakistan’s president is not up for re-election this year, and did not know that Bhutto’s father was executed (not assinated), and who though that Bhutto had only two children instead of three....oh, yeah...a world class genius.


36 posted on 01/05/2008 7:07:45 AM PST by Moby Grape
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To: EQAndyBuzz
I agree with you.

I disagree with those who see a loss in Iowa as such a big deal. Somebody posted that Reagan lost in Iowa and Pat Robertson won there.

37 posted on 01/05/2008 7:12:15 AM PST by Jane Austen
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To: JohnHuang2
Hillary has just a one track mind.
38 posted on 01/05/2008 7:15:56 AM PST by Eye of Unk
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To: Ratblaster
Whistling past the graveyard.

That's where her constituents live!

39 posted on 01/05/2008 7:48:10 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("Therefore the prudent keep silent at that time, for it is an evil time." - Amos 5:13)
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Pray that Hillary is the Dem candidate for president.

Leni

40 posted on 01/05/2008 7:52:43 AM PST by MinuteGal (Three Cheers for the FRed, White and Blue !!!)
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