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Pro-Life Groups Not Surprised Abortion Support Hurt Rudy Giuliani in Iowa
Life News ^ | 1/4/08 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 01/05/2008 9:30:45 AM PST by wagglebee

Des Moines, IA (LifeNews.com) -- Listen to the media tell the story over the last several months and the casual political observer would have thought Rudy Giuliani was the front-runner and ready to begin racking up victories in early primary states. Instead, Giuliani received just four percent of the vote in large part because of his pro-abortion position.

Giuliani finished in sixth place on Thursday night in Iowa, six percentage points back from Rep. Ron Paul and with the support of just over 4,000 voters.

LifeNews.com predicted a month ago that Giuliani will not win the nomination in large part because Giuliani will not attract the support of the 70-75 percent of Iowa voters and the large majority of national Republicans who are pro-life.

Brian Burch, the president of the pro-life Catholic group Fidelis, agreed with that conclusion.

“Voters in the heartland of America overwhelmingly supported five different pro-life candidates over pro-abortion candidate Rudy Giuliani," he told LifeNews.com Friday. "His radical views on abortion ... are unwelcome in the heart of the Republican Party."

Some political observers say Giuliani never had a chance in Iowa because Republican voters there are more socially conservative.

Now, Giuliani heads to New Hampshire where another loss is expected despite New Hampshire's reputation as more favorable to abortion.

In fact, the state legislature recently threw out the state's parental notification law while most others around the nation are adopting such measures.

Yet, as a northeastern candidate, the New York politico is losing in New Hampshire according to the most recent surveys.

The two most recent polls from Suffolk University and Zogby International show the ex-mayor with the support of only nine percent of Granite State voters, putting him in fourth place behind John McCain, Mitt Romney, and Mike Huckabee.

Giuliani runs only one point ahead of Ron Paul and the surveys haven't yet accounted for his dismal Iowa showing.

“Giuliani is hoping he can withstand four losses in Iowa, New Hampshire, Michigan and South Carolina, before hoping for a win in Florida," Burch told LifeNews.com about the mayor's strategy.

"But voters in other states pay attention to what happens in these early states. Will Floridians really cast their vote for a four-time loser?” he concluded.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; giulianitruthfile; ia2008; moralabsolutes; prolife; prolifevote; rudy
“Giuliani is hoping he can withstand four losses in Iowa, New Hampshire, Michigan and South Carolina, before hoping for a win in Florida," Burch told LifeNews.com about the mayor's strategy.

"But voters in other states pay attention to what happens in these early states. Will Floridians really cast their vote for a four-time loser?” he concluded.

Rooty Toot is finished.

1 posted on 01/05/2008 9:30:47 AM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 01/05/2008 9:31:22 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 01/05/2008 9:31:47 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

I imagine “the Rudy” is not surprised that they are not surprised....lol

EVERYONE IS NOT SURPRISED!

Rudy’s not stupid and neither are Florida voters. They’ll know why he’ll be a “4 time loser” coming in....

Will they be stupid enough to vote for him...probably. THey made up their mind long ago he was their guy.

Most Florida voters, well the under 35 crowd anyway, believe only Rudy can defeat Hillary. His fortunes are directly tied to his. If she continues to bomb, Florida will be up for grabs.


4 posted on 01/05/2008 9:49:51 AM PST by Khepri (Fred Thompson, he's a hundred miles away son - READY TO STRIKE!)
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To: wagglebee

Another “coastie” succumbs to the dreaded “Fly-Over Syndrome.” A disease in which one surrounds himself with like-minded people and falls victim to the fact that while he thought that he represented the “majority” and that his opponents were a small group of kooks in fact it’s the morally degraded scum of the seaboards who are the small group of kooks.


5 posted on 01/05/2008 9:49:54 AM PST by Seruzawa
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To: wagglebee
Not necessarily.

Remember, in 1988, Al Gore bypassed the early primaries with a Southern strategy of barnstorming all the Super Tuesday states. He WON Super Tuesday, and that catapulted him into third place behind Dukakis and Jackson. Granted, he was a Super Dud after that, but the point is that if the strategy is to bypass the early states in order to focus on Florida, Floridians are smart enough to understand that he didn't win Iowa because he wasn't really running there.

OTOH, smarter Floridians would know that he didn't run there because he knew he couldn't frickin' win!

6 posted on 01/05/2008 9:53:03 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (wee fish ewe a mare egrets moose panda hippo gnu deer)
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To: Khepri
Most Florida voters, well the under 35 crowd anyway, believe only Rudy can defeat Hillary. His fortunes are directly tied to his. If she continues to bomb, Florida will be up for grabs.

That is actually a very interesting take on all this.
"I'm the only guy that can beat Hillary."
"Yeah, well, she's out. Next!"

7 posted on 01/05/2008 9:54:32 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (wee fish ewe a mare egrets moose panda hippo gnu deer)
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To: Tanniker Smith

OK, let’s say Obama-Rama is the candidate.

There are only 3 candidates who can beat Obama, in my opinion.

Romney, Giuliani or Thompson.

That is why I support these three (although I lean towards Romney).

McCain will lose to Obama though I think it would be fairly close.

Huckabee vs. Obama would be a repeat of the 1972 election where Huck takes on the roll of McGovern.


8 posted on 01/05/2008 9:59:52 AM PST by Signalman
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To: wagglebee

We forget that as recently as November Giuliani was all the talk of the MSM and in a negative sense here on FR. He had been annointed by the drive-by and along with Hillary had already been crowned the respective nominees. I along with others repeatedly stated that once you got past the name recognition and the 9/11 rhetoric and his positions on social issues and RKBA were examined he would fade amongst the pubbie faithful. I stated that I thought by February Rudy would be an afterthought and I still feel that way. Unfortunately, I assumed folks like Fred (and possibly even Duncan) would start to ascend as conservatives came to their senses.

Hopefully, there’s still enough time to put Huckabee and McCain under the microscope. I don’t think Huckabee is going to last as he makes too many gaffes, nor Romney as he’s having too much trouble convincing voters he has a core philosophy. At this point I fear McCain the most. Having said that I feel it will be a brokered convention and I’m hopeful that a lot of Huckabee’s early support will end up in Fred’s column.


9 posted on 01/05/2008 10:00:46 AM PST by bereanway (Hunter in '08)
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To: wagglebee

Giuliani could have won as a pro choice, anti gun, pro amnesty and pro gay candidate, if only he had run as a Democrat. Rudy could help the Democratic Party, moderating it with his Rockefeller philosophy. Instead, he has chosen to help polarize the Republican Party.


10 posted on 01/05/2008 10:05:24 AM PST by pallis
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To: wagglebee
Huckabee, Mike...........34%
Romney, Mitt...............25%
Thompson, Fred...........13%
McCain, John...............13%
Paul, Ron...................10%
Giuliani, Rudy...............3%
Hunter, Duncan.............0%
Tancredo, Tom..............0%

Abortion kills.

11 posted on 01/05/2008 10:09:07 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: pallis

Rooty Toot is basically a person without a party, his politics are roughly the same as Joe Lieberman’s and look what the ‘Rats did to him.


12 posted on 01/05/2008 10:09:26 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: bereanway

Good analysis.

I think the voters will come to their senses. Huckabee is totally unelectable. He is an open borders tax raiser who is clueless about how to fight the WOT. He’s the GOP’s Jimmy Carter. I expect him to make “human rights” his priority as to how to fight the Islamo-facists, just like Carter did.

As a fellow ‘Nam vet I, of course, admire McCain for his service and for his toughness as a POW. But, his support of the amnesty bill, being against the Bush tax cuts and his reported temperament problems don’t give me much reason to support him.

I’m not a social conservative, I’m a fiscal and pro-strong defense conservative. That leaves, for me, Giuliani, Romney and Fred. I can totally support any one of these guys.


13 posted on 01/05/2008 10:11:32 AM PST by Signalman
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To: wagglebee
>Will Floridians really cast their vote for a four-time loser?” he concluded.

Yes. Most Floridians don’t give a rat’s azz what happens in Iowa, Michigan, or New Hampshire.

They will note SC.

14 posted on 01/05/2008 10:25:40 AM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: wagglebee
"Giuliani is hoping he can withstand four losses in Iowa, New Hampshire, Michigan and South Carolina, before hoping for a win in Florida," Burch told LifeNews.com about the mayor's strategy.

Bwaahahaha!! A week or so ago the Rooty camp was counting on winning in Michigan, even though polls showed him losing ground.

With FOUR LOSSES he's ....

And no way will he win FL. Rooty only has a 2% lead now per the RCP avg - he's dropping like a rock. And in here in IL, one of the mega primary states Rooty was counting on, he's behind now too. The Huckster was (is) leading per a poll I read.

So come Feb 6th he can go back to NY where he belongs and play dress-up and cross-dressing to his perverted heart's content.

15 posted on 01/05/2008 10:42:06 AM PST by Condor51 (I wouldn't vote for Rooty under any circumstance -- even if Waterboarded!)
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To: Khepri

I reckon if even OBambi and Silky Pony can beat Hillary, nobody can feel justified in insisting that “only Rudy” can do it.


16 posted on 01/05/2008 1:41:33 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (What's Rudy but Ah-nold in a dress?)
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