Posted on 01/05/2008 8:05:45 PM PST by BigJohn44
The NFL did a huge favor to Bill Belichick by making him focus more on his own team instead of the other teams. They made him realize he is even more of a genius than previously thought.
When Charlie Wies and Maginin left, lots of people said Belachick was all done. They left and it was like they were never there.
Patriots are going all the way. There’s no one that can touch them. Matter of fact, other than the Giants, I haven’t seen them have to ‘turn on’ their game. There biggest struggle is boredom.
Belichick - - Coach of the Year.
Brady - - MVP.
When are you whiners going to hang up your crying towels?
They got a lesson - - the coach was fined - - the team was fined - - and they lost a first-round pick.
What are you going to do when Dallas gets their ass kicked? (and I sincerely hope it’s at the hands of the Patriots.)
Grow a pair and quit whining.
How is San Francisco, San Diego and Oakland doing?
Another whiner!
This is not a comparison of other teams; that tactic is for liberals. The issue is everybody playing by the same rules.
The Patriots are winners....like the two Senators from Massachusetts.....I won’t be proud of any of them.
That’s just stupid. The whole thing is stupid. They paid the fines, it’s OVER people get a freaking life. As for “below market value”, exactly what was the market value of Moss, a player who’d had a lot of discipline problems in Minnesota and hadn’t had a decent statistical year since mooning the Packers faithful? Also what’s the market value of a guy who’s made it clear he’s done with his current team, you have no trade leverage then. As for Welker Dolphin fans still insist he’s not that good.
Because the first tape had already leaked to the press. Anything shown on TV is fair game for usage by teams, if any of that footage had leaked (a probability that had already been demonstrated) then all the teams, including the Pats, could have used it. The audio was part of the video, just like your home VHS/ digital stuff.
Really anybody that thinks the tape destruction was done to hide evidence needs to explain why they busted the Pats in the first place. If Goodell wanted to prevent a scandal the much more efficient way is to tell the Jets to suck it up and never bust the Pats. Even more efficient would have been to make sure the competition committee have helmet radios to the defense this off season and end the thing that causes taping in the first place.
You need to pay attention to the last 5 games, they actually have developed a solid running game. That’s the problem with sports talking head, they figure out their points for the season by the end of week 3, since then the Pats have actually changed quite a bit. And they’re #4 in total defense. So that’s 2 out of 3 you got wrong.
If the guy taping had taken 15 steps backwards (putting him in the front row of the stands), this would have been legal. Also, how did they capture the "corresponding audio" from the far sidelines? Maybe it was from the black helicopter hovering overhead.
Brady - - MVP.
Patriots - - CHEATERS.
There we go. Now we have a complete list, ey Beckwad.
Now, ask yourself which of these items will be most remembered by NFL fans. Yeah, hate to tell ya. It's the cheating.
I think Jacksonville is the team that can be New England!
Hey um, Disco, or whatever your handle is:
Your post is just this side of illiterate. And mine was stupid?
It was reported that Moss gave financial concessions to facilitate the trade to New England; and that he did so for the chance of winning a super bowl. You dispute it; but it was reported and I provided a cite.
The point is, had the Patriots not cheated for several years to compile an artificially good record, guys like Moss would not whore themselves out at below-market rates.
The NFL has a carefully crafted parity system based on revenue sharing and a salary cap. The Patriots' cheating undermined this system and we are still seeing the consequences.
That is not correct. Any team employee is prohibited from videotaping anywhere but in the enclosed coaches' box. Even fans in the stands are not supposed to videotape.
The ESPN article originally quoted stated that the Patriots recorded audio of private conversations. Apparently you are disputing this fact with some inane reference to a black helicopter. All I can say is, I cited a source; you did not.
Of course he gave financial consideration, given the last few years for Moss nobody was going to pay his old salary. Remember when this trade happened the pundits were evenly split, this was either one of the greatest trades ever, or one of the stupidest, Moss was either going to be inspired back into his old form on the field, or continue his team poisoning ways off. Given what a 50/ 50 proposition Moss was a 4th round pick and a pay cut was the right call. So again, how was this “below market value”, and the market value for a guy that totaled 31 starts, 151 receptions, and 24 TDs in the last three seasons combined isn’t very high.
The point is you’re wrong. Prior to this season it looked like Moss’ glory days were behind him. He was a 29 year old discipline case that had lost a step, had missed games in 2 of his last 3 seasons, punished with a missed start in the other, and had all around had a dramatic drop in productivity. His market rate was low, he was being shown the door from the discipline case team. While it’s easy now, AFTER his best season ever, to say he was a steal, but when the trade was made his most recent season had resulted in 42 catches, 3 TDs, and 553 total yards. The post 2006 version of Randy Moss was a possible washup looking for one last gasp at a good career.
And that kind of kills your whole premise. Pretty much anybody you can complain about the Pats getting cheap actually DESERVED to be cheap. Welker had had a total of 3 starts, 97 catches and, 1 TD for his entire 4 season career. Pick a guy they’ve picked up, any guy any year, look at their career before the Pats, especially the last 2 or 3, every last one of them there’s a good reason they were cheap. Their success isn’t built on a stilted win percentage getting them players below market value, their success is built on understanding why some players aren’t playing well and figuring out that they’re actually worth more than their market value.
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