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Fred After False Withdrawal Rumor: 'I Owe Media Nothing'
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 01/06/2008 7:16:08 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

Fred Thompson today blasted the media for propagating a false rumor about his impending withdrawal, while bolstering the role he has created for himself as the candidate in this race who does not suffer unwelcome questions gladly.

Back in Iowa, Thompson famously refused to respond to the debate moderator/school marm's demand for a hand-show on global warming. Then this morning on Today, he declined to engage in horse-race speculation about his own prospects, then took the media to task for its propagation of that false rumor about his impending withdrawal. Weekend anchor Lester Holt interviewed the former Tennessee senator.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: barackobama; biasmeanslayoffs; billweir; fred; fredthompson; ia2008; liberalmedia; mediabias; msm; nh2008; rumors; trysellingthetruth
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To: Revelation 911

Yes, FRed has principles. I guess that’s something to jeer at when one is a Ron Paul fan.


51 posted on 01/06/2008 9:59:13 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Coldwater Creek

Another Carter or another Reagan?


52 posted on 01/06/2008 10:00:52 AM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: Lloyd227
All I can say is that this is not my father's Republican party anymore.

What we have is a new struggle for the heart and soul of the Republican Party.

For me this is deja vu. I went thru this in the 1964 Republican Primaries.

I was a member of The College Young Republicans in California. The race between Governor Nelson Rockefeller and Senator Barry Goldwater was intense and in doubt until California. Where we were ultimately victorious.

The next generation will have to carry on the struggle anew.


53 posted on 01/06/2008 10:13:51 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (“Sincerity is everything. If you can fake that, you’ve got it made.” George Burns)
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To: Khepri
You are wrong. Elections are a huge media event. Ads are just a small part of the exposure candidates get. It's a chicken and egg situation. The media strongly influences the polls with the way the poll questions are phrased and by the face time they give the candidates.

This is all very elementary and I don't know why I'm bothering to discuss it.

54 posted on 01/06/2008 10:18:08 AM PST by balls
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I can't count how many times, I have wished a candidate would say, "I am not here to analize the horse race, I'm here to put forth my ideas."

Wow.

McFred has the stones to refuse to play the stupid "raise your hand for global warming" and to stand up to Lester on the media game of horse raise analysis.

Too bad that the personal attacks on Ron Paul and my support for him makes supporting McFred very difficult.

55 posted on 01/06/2008 10:18:14 AM PST by Nephi ( $100m ante is a symptom of the old media... the Ron Paul Revolution is the new media's choice.)
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To: Revelation 911

==> “...he just “principled” himself right out of the race by pissing off the media - smart move.” <==

This is not scolding, because I know that you don’t intend to demonstrate shallowness by your comment. But every one of us on this forum MUST know better than to let the media, the parties, and the campaign organizations shape our perception of the candidates.

This forum, and the uncountable number of information sources it taps to inform us about the candidates, gives us the ability to form our own opinions without the distortions and prevarications of the people and institutions that used to shape them.

Yes, of course many are still in thrall to those conduits of misinformation, but the declining popularity of the old media demonstrate that more people every day are Waking up from their complacency - and once they do, they will never go back.


56 posted on 01/06/2008 10:21:46 AM PST by MainFrame65 (The US Senate: World's greatest PREVARICATIVE body!)
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To: Jackknife
Lester Holt, what a Dolt. The dummy that the comedian used named Lester, has more brain cells than the Dolt.


57 posted on 01/06/2008 10:23:17 AM PST by Blue Highway (The only cure for RINOvirus - Fred Thompson)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

McFred appears afraid to be challenged by not going on the Factor. Don’t pretend McFred can’t use the visibility. I’m a Paul supporter, but McFred doesn’t seem to have anything to be afraid of, or to lose, unless, his role isn’t really to win.


58 posted on 01/06/2008 10:24:33 AM PST by Nephi ( $100m ante is a symptom of the old media... the Ron Paul Revolution is the new media's choice.)
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To: Nephi
McFred appears afraid to be challenged by not going on the Factor.

I disagree. There's nothing to be gained by appearing on The Factor.

As far as being challenged in a serious debate that's a joke, BO couldn't challenge himself out of a wet paper bag.

How many times have we witnessed Coulter giving the bloviator a thorough spanking? BO is a buffoon.

If you want to watch a serious interview with Fred see if you can google up the interview he had on the Charlie Rose show. It was great.

59 posted on 01/06/2008 10:40:02 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (“Sincerity is everything. If you can fake that, you’ve got it made.” George Burns)
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To: Nephi
Too bad that the personal attacks on Ron Paul and my support for him makes supporting McFred very difficult.

And too bad that a search of your posts by anyone interested will reveal a nasty, sniveling, shallow, little troll who likes to throw out disgusting barbs about Fred's appearance and his wife and anything other substance-free criticism you could find.

Too bad indeed.

60 posted on 01/06/2008 11:00:35 AM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (Yeah, I'm a bigot. I'm bigoted against MA liberals pretending to be conservative.)
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To: Revelation 911

he he


61 posted on 01/06/2008 11:02:42 AM PST by Principled (Vaporize the "Divide and Conquer" taxes - Have everyone pay the same marginal rate!. NRST!)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

You mean you don’t believe that someone who used “NearlyDeadFred” for months might suddenly decide to support him?

You cynic, you.


62 posted on 01/06/2008 11:02:58 AM PST by Politicalmom (Huckabee’s foreign policy experience consists of eating at the International House of Pancakes.)
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To: linn37
Does Fred know who started the rumor? I would love to know who did it.

Roger Simon, of Politico.COM made it up and published the first story.  It's at least the tenth false story he's created slamming Fred. It's conceivable he has some "source," but it's likely his parakeet who whispers these things in his ear.

The rest of the media just started repeating what Simon said, then sheeple started repeating it on blogs, including folks who should know better.

63 posted on 01/06/2008 11:17:20 AM PST by Phsstpok (When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring!)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
Too bad that the personal attacks on Ron Paul and my support for him makes supporting McFred very difficult.

And too bad that a search of your posts by anyone interested will reveal a nasty, sniveling, shallow, little troll who likes to throw out disgusting barbs about Fred's appearance and his wife and anything other substance-free criticism you could find.

Well, aside from no evidence to support your characterizaion of my posts, you kind of proved my point, didn't you?

64 posted on 01/06/2008 11:25:55 AM PST by Nephi ( $100m ante is a symptom of the old media... the Ron Paul Revolution is the new media's choice.)
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To: Nephi
The evidence is in your posting history. That is available to anyone who wants to read it, you know.

You've been so kind as to provide plenty of evidence over the past 6 months or so of all the claims I made in my previous post. Thanks for playing. You can return to your retard revolution now.

65 posted on 01/06/2008 11:29:32 AM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (Yeah, I'm a bigot. I'm bigoted against MA liberals pretending to be conservative.)
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To: Politicalmom
You mean you don’t believe that someone who used “NearlyDeadFred” for months might suddenly decide to support him?

Umm, no, the moniker I used for McFred was nearlydeadMcFred. It was a name that I coined to counter the kneejerk comparisons to Reagan just because they were both actors.

In any event, I guess there's not much in the way of redemption around here, since as you note, I quit using that moniker for McFred, on my own, some time ago.

And don't forget, that due to the big guy's endorsement of attacks on Ron Paul and his supporters, all you guys have to do is provoke us to get us banned.

66 posted on 01/06/2008 11:34:46 AM PST by Nephi ( $100m ante is a symptom of the old media... the Ron Paul Revolution is the new media's choice.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

It just seems that if the case against me is so easy, you would post them to make it easier for folks to join you in condemning me. That is unless, in reality, my posts were mild compared to the attack you just posted minutes ago.


67 posted on 01/06/2008 11:40:03 AM PST by Nephi ( $100m ante is a symptom of the old media... the Ron Paul Revolution is the new media's choice.)
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To: Nephi; Politicalmom; All
Here are just a few examples of Nephi's fantastic contributions to this forum regarding the appearance of Fred Thompson over the last several months:

"It sounds like McFred runs his campaign with the same dispassionate enthusiasm as his eight years as senator...and people are beginning to recognize it once they get past McFred's fake hair color, makeup and TV roles."

"Okay, so we have an actor whose head bobbing is amateurish, a “conservative” who wrote the unconstitutional McCain/Feingold/Thompson, but you’re supporting him anyway because...he’s plays a conservative on TV, but can’t act?"

"I came up with the name, "NearlydeadFred" when Fred zealots began comparing him with Reagan. Besides the fact that he's handsome as the ass-end of a bulldog, he looks like death warmed over without makeup on. NearlydeadMcFred isn't qualified to shine Reagan's shoes, let alone fill them, when it comes to conservative credentials. I added the "Mc" to point to the fact that NearlydeadMcFred has strong ties to the conservative betrayal known as McCain/Feingold. To be able to sum up NearlydeadMcFred's political future in a 16 letter nickname makes it all the more fun."

"Figures that you’d throw away your vote on NearlydeadMcFred. Obviously, the fact that his most notable achievements are co-chairing McCain’s presidential campaign, co-authoring McCain/Feingold and voting against impeaching Clinton. Congratulations, you’re supporting a loser who actually makes Hillary look pretty." "Tumor and all, Ron Paul's conservative record dwarfs NearlydeadMcFred's. Enjoy."

"I guess you're referring to NearlydeadMcFred's melodious voice? I guess you don't care much that NearlydeadMcFred thinks so little of the constitution that he bragged about co-authoring McCain/Feingold? Geez, your conservatism runs about as deep as the makeup on NearlydeadMcFred's face."

"It's actually a humorous name to use when critiquing a guy who is promoted as an "actor like Reagan" but who is really a very old worn out empty suit with a melodious voice who shares McCain's vision for America. I'm able to summarize all of that in one simple nickname - NearlydeadMcFred. Nice, huh?"

"Since playing a conservative on TV is all that many Republicans are requiring of the party's possible nominee, NearlydeadMcFred fans need to be reminded that he's not going to be quite so telegenic unless he's in makeup 24/7."

"NearlydeadMcFred will need to have makeup 24/7 to maintain the public image you seem to have bought into."

"NearlydeadMcFred plays a conservative on TV and you fell for it."

You wanted examples, you got em. Now, go play in your sandbox with the rest of the Ron Paul shortbussers.

68 posted on 01/06/2008 12:12:39 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (Yeah, I'm a bigot. I'm bigoted against MA liberals pretending to be conservative.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
Thanks for posting those little nuggets. Those posts are evidence that your characterizations of me pale in comparison to the attacks you just made several times in this thread.

Too bad the dates of those posts don't show how far you had to go back to dig them up, but they still don't show me attacking McFred supporters, either. Unless "zealot" is an attack?

By the way, rovian, enjoy nursing that grudge.

69 posted on 01/06/2008 12:41:40 PM PST by Nephi ( $100m ante is a symptom of the old media... the Ron Paul Revolution is the new media's choice.)
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To: Nephi

Heh, only in your paultard world, pal. Call us when the shuttle lands.


70 posted on 01/06/2008 12:52:54 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (Yeah, I'm a bigot. I'm bigoted against MA liberals pretending to be conservative.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The media were just reporting something that they were hoping for. They couldn’t help believing it was true, even if they knew it was false.


71 posted on 01/06/2008 1:09:29 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
>The evidence is in your posting history. That is available to anyone who wants to read it, you know.
You’ve been so kind as to provide plenty of evidence over the past 6 months or so of all the claims I made in my previous post. Thanks for playing. You can return to your retard revolution now.<

When one makes such broad claims it is generally accepted that you must provide multiple links to show that you conducted actual research and aren’t talking out your a-hole. Without such links, you are not helping your credibility.

72 posted on 01/06/2008 1:15:27 PM PST by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: MainFrame65

hey - I dont make the rules - I was just commenting on them


73 posted on 01/06/2008 1:22:10 PM PST by Revelation 911
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To: All
Also Posted Here in it's entirety
74 posted on 01/06/2008 1:22:58 PM PST by Syncro (And without the childish bickering... :>)
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To: okie01

On the other hand, there is something both ironic and obvious about someone who’s done so much acting telling the media he owes them nothing.


75 posted on 01/06/2008 1:23:47 PM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: TN4Liberty

I dont care how much polish they put on a turd.You cant put a shine on a turd/rino


76 posted on 01/06/2008 1:48:51 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: B4Ranch

You mean like he did in post 68 over an hour ago?


77 posted on 01/06/2008 2:06:07 PM PST by Politicalmom (Huckabee’s foreign policy experience consists of eating at the International House of Pancakes.)
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To: B4Ranch

So, you want links now that I’ve provided the quotes? Too bad. Get em yourself. If you have questions about my ‘credibility’, I certainly won’t be losing any sleep over it.


78 posted on 01/06/2008 3:11:33 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (Yeah, I'm a bigot. I'm bigoted against MA liberals pretending to be conservative.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

“You wanted examples, you got em.”

Yeah - we got an example of your being an egomaniac jerk who thinks your words are so much more important than everyone else’s that you need to use obnoxious red blinking text, out of fear that you won’t be noticed.

You wanted attention? You got it. Obnoxious people usually garner lots of attention.

BTW Karl Rove severely damaged the cause of Conservatism and small government.


79 posted on 01/06/2008 3:12:17 PM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

LOL...are you trying to get a rise out of me? Not likely to happen. You can go back to your little retard revolution now...bye!


80 posted on 01/06/2008 3:18:02 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (Yeah, I'm a bigot. I'm bigoted against MA liberals pretending to be conservative.)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
Oh, and by the way, if you've got a problem with blinking red text, take it up with the w3c.
81 posted on 01/06/2008 3:19:41 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (Yeah, I'm a bigot. I'm bigoted against MA liberals pretending to be conservative.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
Hey rove! You left out this little gem from a Paul thread:

It's about time the Ron Paul campaign spotlights the broad military support he has to combat the neo-con interventionist war boosters.

11 posted on 01/05/2008 12:49:03 PM PST by Nephi ( $100m ante is a symptom of the old media... the Ron Paul Revolution is the new media's choice.)

HEY DUDE WE are Neo COn War Boosters!

BTW he tanked my on that thread, fist time I have had a post zotted. Dishing it out and taking it two different things I guess.

Felt good though....

82 posted on 01/06/2008 3:21:59 PM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: ejonesie22
HEY DUDE WE are Neo COn War Boosters!

Finally, I've reached my goal!!! :D

I went from sexist bigot homophobe to warmonger. I never thought I'd reach NeoCon War Booster!

That decoder ring is gonna rock!!

83 posted on 01/06/2008 3:26:00 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (Yeah, I'm a bigot. I'm bigoted against MA liberals pretending to be conservative.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

“Oh, and by the way, if you’ve got a problem with blinking red text, take it up with the w3c.”

Sure, it exists. So does crack and heroin. Doesn’t mean you have to use it.

The < blink> tag is the most obnoxious that exists.

Don’t blame the W3C for your obsessively attention seeking, egomaniacal behavior.

These are the rules.

“Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts.”

Nephi criticized a candidate. You called him names.

I didn’t call you names - I made an observation about your bizarre attention seeking behavior.

Giant blinking red text is the exception, not the norm. You used it because you think that your message was the most important on the thread and had a deep psychological need to be paid attention to.

Your dismissive post, after being “noticed.” is even funnier. You are a narcissist, just like Rove.


84 posted on 01/06/2008 3:26:59 PM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: Khepri
It’s all stemming for ROmney’s camp. I expect nothing less of Team Buchanan

Hey! Don't leave out Warren Tompkins, he of the 2000 push poll in SC. Mitt has some real winners on his team.

85 posted on 01/06/2008 3:29:24 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (Mitt willingly gives up his personal freedoms to his church..why would he protect YOURS!)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

YES!!!


86 posted on 01/06/2008 3:29:25 PM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

LOL...yada yada yada.

In spite of the blinking text, one of your paultard buddies up there still didn’t manage to see it.

Perhaps I should have made the entire thing blinking red text, so you’d notice the multiple personal attacks on Fred Thompson supporters contained within the quotes.


87 posted on 01/06/2008 3:30:11 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (Yeah, I'm a bigot. I'm bigoted against MA liberals pretending to be conservative.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

“LOL...are you trying to get a rise out of me? Not likely to happen. “

Anyway, based on your obsessive need for attention, I have the sneaking suspicion that no one has been able to get a rise out of you without your taking a Vitamin V for a long, long time. I’m not that kinda guy, so go tap your foot under another stall.

“You can go back to your little retard revolution now...bye!”

I’m not a Paul supporter. I’m a Hunter supporter. However, I think that Paul is a hell of a lot better than most of the leading candidates. I’d take Paul over Rudy, Flipp Mitt, McQueeg, or Huckster any day.

Why?

Because socialism is the real biggest threat to us. The towelheads are bad, but the socialists (like Big Government Buddy Bust the Budget Karl Rove who never met an entitlement program he didn’t like) are the real biggest threat to this country right now.

You can call Paul a lot of things - a friend of socialism is not one of them, unlike Karl Rove and the other idiot politicians I mentioned.


88 posted on 01/06/2008 3:32:42 PM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

“Perhaps I should have made the entire thing blinking red text, so you’d notice the multiple personal attacks on Fred Thompson supporters contained within the quotes.”

The only one I saw was the phrase “fred zealot,” and they do exist. There are zealots for every cause. That’s not a ‘personal attack.’

Please compare and contrast the phrases “Paultard” and “Fred Zealot.”

One implies that someone is mentally retarded. The other implies someone who supports Fred no matter what.


89 posted on 01/06/2008 3:36:25 PM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
While I'd just love to have a nice conversation with you about the evils of creeping socialism, I'm afraid I just don't have the inclination to have such a discussion with someone who would actually type something as silly as this:

"Anyway, based on your obsessive need for attention, I have the sneaking suspicion that no one has been able to get a rise out of you without your taking a Vitamin V for a long, long time. I’m not that kinda guy, so go tap your foot under another stall."

90 posted on 01/06/2008 3:38:35 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (Yeah, I'm a bigot. I'm bigoted against MA liberals pretending to be conservative.)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

Then, you have a reading comprehension problem. You must be a product of our public schools. That explains a great deal.

Are you planning on continuing this much longer? As much as I dislike folding laundry, doing so is far less tiresome than shooting the breeze with you.


91 posted on 01/06/2008 3:40:58 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (Yeah, I'm a bigot. I'm bigoted against MA liberals pretending to be conservative.)
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To: okie01

On the other hand, there is something both ironic and obvious about someone who’s done so much acting telling the media he owes them nothing.


92 posted on 01/06/2008 3:43:48 PM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: supremedoctrine
And, I imagine, Fred enjoys and appreciates the irony.
93 posted on 01/06/2008 3:46:13 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
If you are going to quote the rules, go all the way and include the purpose and stance of this site:

Statement by the founder of Free Republic:

In our continuing fight for freedom, for America and our constitution and against totalitarianism, socialism, tyranny, terrorism, etc., Free Republic stands firmly on the side of right, i.e., the conservative side. Believing that the best defense is a strong offense, we (myself and those whom I'm trying to attract to FR) support the strategy of taking the fight to the enemy as opposed to allowing the enemy the luxury of conducting their attacks on us at home on their terms and on their schedule.

Therefore, we wholeheartedly support the Bush Doctrine of pre-emptive strikes on known terrorist states and organizations that are believed to present a clear threat to our freedom or national security. We support our military, our troops and our Commander-in-Chief and we oppose turning control of our government back over to the liberals and socialists who favor appeasement, weakness, and subserviency. We do not believe in surrendering to the terrorists as France, Germany, Russia and Spain have done and as Kerry, Kennedy, Clinton and the Democrats, et al, are proposing.

As you were saying....

94 posted on 01/06/2008 3:47:15 PM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

“Then, you have a reading comprehension problem. You must be a product of our public schools. That explains a great deal.”

No reading comprehension problem. It just wasn’t there.

Post 2 other “personal attacks” he made, from the selection of quotes you provided.

I double dog dare you.


95 posted on 01/06/2008 3:48:33 PM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Good for Fred! The ONLY reason they interviewed him was to fuel the flames that he will be dropping out next. That jerk deserved NOTHING. Most Americans seeing that will think Fred can stand up for America to the world’s terrorists.


96 posted on 01/06/2008 3:52:22 PM PST by tioga
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

“While I’d just love to have a nice conversation with you about the evils of creeping socialism, I’m afraid I just don’t have the inclination to have such a discussion with someone who would actually type something as silly as this:”

I’ll call you Fredtard then, since adding ‘tard’ to a word isn’t a personal attack, in your book.

Relish and bask in the attention! How about some more red giant blinky text? Do enough and you might be able to get a rise out of yourself, who knows?

Not a bad nickname suggestion, since you’re named after Rove, and Rove is kinda like the Fredo (Godfather reference) of the GOP, and Fredo alliterates with Fredtard. Fredtard_Fredo_Storm! There ya go.


97 posted on 01/06/2008 3:53:36 PM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: HerrBlucher

This is the kind of thing that Clarence Thomas says, he owes the liberals and the media nothing because of what they did to him during his confirmation hearings. Therefore Justice Thomas can be his own man when he makes decisions.

Whatever happens, Fred is setting things up so he owes no one in the media anything. It is possible to put others on that list as well.


98 posted on 01/06/2008 3:55:08 PM PST by daylilly
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To: daylilly

Just in case anyone missed this interview! GO FRED!
http://fredfile.fred08.com/blog/2008/video-fred-thompson-on-fox-news-010608/


99 posted on 01/06/2008 3:57:07 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: tioga

“Good for Fred! The ONLY reason they interviewed him was to fuel the flames that he will be dropping out next. That jerk deserved NOTHING. Most Americans seeing that will think Fred can stand up for America to the world’s terrorist”

I kinda like Fred but his campaign hasn’t picked up momentum. He isn’t raising money. He isn’t exciting anyone but a handfull of people on FR who are gaga over the guy, and go out of their way to insult the other candidates with a ‘go team!’ mentality, like they were rooting for the NBA finals or something.

I am looking forward to poking the people who spent the last few months dissing Hucksterby (who I will never vote for) or Rooty when they are the nominee, because they are “better than Hillary.”

I am not a Paul supporter but if it was Paul running as an independent vs McHuckaromniani vs Hillary - Paul gets my vote. I won’t vote for big-government nanny staters from ANY party. Socialism is a bigger threat than Islamists to us.


100 posted on 01/06/2008 3:58:10 PM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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