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Huckabee Sounding A Little Like Ron Paul
CBS News ^ | 1/7/2008 | CBS News - Joy Lin

Posted on 01/07/2008 9:19:11 AM PST by tmp02

nterestingly, Huckabee’s words sound like an issues statement on fellow candidate Ron Paul's campaign website. It's not plagiarism, but their points are quite similar: “Today, too many politicians and lobbyists are spending America into ruin. We are nine trillion dollars in debt as a nation. Our mounting government debt endangers the financial future of our children and grandchildren. If we don’t cut spending now, higher taxes and economic disaster will be in their future — and yours. In addition, the Federal Reserve, our central bank, fosters runaway debt by increasing the money supply — making each dollar in your pocket worth less.”

At the Jan. 5 GOP debate, Ron Paul said “We run up the deficits. We tax. We borrow. We borrow from the Chinese. We can't borrow enough. Then what do we do? We print the money.”

Paul has consistently accused the government of feeding inflation by printing more money to pay debt.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gopdebates; huckabee; nh2008; ronpaul

1 posted on 01/07/2008 9:19:12 AM PST by tmp02
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To: tmp02

First, Fred claims to be the Dr. No of the Senate and embraces birth-right citizenship, now this. Everyone is stealing from Paul....but I guess this is progress in a strange sort of way.


2 posted on 01/07/2008 9:20:47 AM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk

Agreed


3 posted on 01/07/2008 9:21:35 AM PST by tmp02
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To: Captain Kirk
I'll take neither, but Paul is the one who is specific about where the cuts will come from.

Prawned Paul claims that the US only needs one nuke sub to defend us.

Therefore, the defense department would get the biggest cuts from a suicidal Prawned Paul administration.

Collapse of the republic would soon follow.

4 posted on 01/07/2008 9:30:37 AM PST by lormand (Ron Paul 08' - Cult of the Insane)
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To: tmp02
Now it doesn't require expropriation or confiscation of private property or business to impose socialism on a people. What does it mean whether you hold the deed to the -- or the title to your business or property if the government holds the power of life and death over that business or property? And such machinery already exists. The government can find some charge to bring against any concern it chooses to prosecute. Every businessman has his own tale of harassment. Somewhere a perversion has taken place. Our natural, unalienable rights are now considered to be a dispensation of government, and freedom has never been so fragile, so close to slipping from our grasp as it is at this moment.

-- Ronald Reagan, A Time For Choosing, October 10, 1964


5 posted on 01/07/2008 9:30:45 AM PST by XR7
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To: Captain Kirk

Just heard Hcuk delivered 4001 babies just last month.


6 posted on 01/07/2008 9:31:51 AM PST by rineaux ( Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays and a Happy New Year. Lets try to be nice till after the New Year.)
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To: tmp02
Huckabess sounds more like Lonesome Rhodes.

An Arkansas hobo becomes an overnight media sensation. But as he becomes drunk with fame and power, will he ever be exposed as the fraud he has become? A Face in the Crowd.

Lonesome Rhodes: This whole country's just like my flock of sheep!
Marcia Jeffries: Sheep?
Lonesome Rhodes: Rednecks, crackers, hillbillies, hausfraus, shut-ins, pea-pickers - everybody that's got to jump when somebody else blows the whistle. They don't know it yet, but they're all gonna be 'Fighters for Fuller'. They're mine! I own 'em! They think like I do. Only they're even more stupid than I am, so I gotta think for 'em.

7 posted on 01/07/2008 9:32:23 AM PST by Defiant (Huckabee puts the goober back in gubernatorial.)
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To: tmp02

Huckabee sounds more and more like an old time democrat promoting class warfare.


8 posted on 01/07/2008 9:34:14 AM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: tmp02

Actually Ron Paul, Huckabee and others including FDT are just parroting the Comptroller General:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/01/60minutes/main2528226.shtml

So the point of this article? What is it? That Huckabee is also a ‘Truther’?

The fact is the United States is going bankrupt unless it massively raises taxes (ain’t gonna happen), causes hyperinflation by borrowing from the Fed which creates it out of thin air (won’t be tolerated) or massively cuts spending (will happen).

The reason we can’t get out of it this time is because there are no tax or monetary cards left to play, meaning we have 70 million boomers retiring who expect a check from government and we can’t tinker with tax code or have the Fed manipulate their monetary policy to avoid the liabilities associated with the huge demographic change. We don’t have enough payers into the system to handle the liabilities. And our Congress has been using Social Security surpluses by transferring it to the general fund. Those surpluses will disappear in the next two years. And Social Security is forecast to be insolvent in 20 years (actually sooner).

The only cards left to play are:

FairTax
Decentralization (massive spending cuts)

And a prayer that technological innovation will bring us back to a creditor nation. 1969 is when the United States became a debtor nation.

Technological change that will help:

Pebble-cased reactors
Electric or Hybrid Diesel Electric Cars
Substitutes for plastic

Anything that will wean our nation off of petroleum products to the extent that we become a creditor nation.


9 posted on 01/07/2008 9:43:23 AM PST by Hostage
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To: tmp02

I would prefer Hunter over Huck or Paul.


10 posted on 01/07/2008 9:50:24 AM PST by RC2
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To: rineaux

Now, that was funny.


11 posted on 01/07/2008 9:59:04 AM PST by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: tmp02

TAX HIKE MIKE has some gall plagiarizing from real conservatives with his tax-and-spend record - how many shills does he fool with his slick Clintonesque song-and-dance?

http://taxhikemike.org

Kathryn Jean Lopez: Is Mike Huckabee really as bad as you say he is?

Pat Toomey: He’s every bit as bad, and you don’t have to just take our word for it. Jonah Goldberg, you and your fellow editors at National Review, Bob Novak, and John Fund — to name just a few conservative writers — agree that Mike Huckabee is no conservative. You can read the Club’s white paper on our website, but here is a quick summary of Huckabee’s worst hits. According to the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, the average Arkansas tax burden increased 47% over Huckabee’s tenure. Huckabee supported (in chronological order) a sales tax hike; gas and diesel fuel tax hikes; another sales tax hike; a cigarette tax hike; a nursing home bed tax; another sales tax hike; an income surcharge tax; a tobacco tax hike; taxes on Internet access; and higher beer taxes. Huckabee also oversaw a 50-percent increase in spending; happily signed a minimum wage increase and encouraged national Republicans to do the same; favors a national smoking ban, farm subsidies, and a federally mandated arts and music curriculum; opposes private school choice; and employs class-warfare and protectionist language on the campaign trail. Huckabee calls himself an economic conservative in the mold of Ronald Reagan, but the above list doesn’t sound like either.


12 posted on 01/07/2008 10:00:51 AM PST by WOSG (Iowa gave us a CLUSTERHUCK)
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To: Defiant
I think Dewey Knott from Helprin’s “Freddy and Frederika” when I see and hear him.
13 posted on 01/07/2008 10:04:05 AM PST by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: WOSG

Yeah, he’s the next coming of Tip O’Neil:)

Here’s the thing that I wish all of the candidates, media and supporters would acknowledge: states have rights to provide services for taxes that the federal government does not. I have asked this question several times, but here goes again: The reason AR had to raise taxes for their road system? Simple, they did not have savvy enough representatives or Senators at the federal level to earmark monies for the project like they did, say, in MA where the “Big Dig” got federal monies for 20 years or so. Which is more conservative - agreeing with 80% of the electorate that you need roads and then enacting a gasoline tax to pay for it, or just asking for an earmark in 3000 page omnibus spending bill?


14 posted on 01/07/2008 10:21:27 AM PST by wastedpotential (A Reagan Bush conservative from OH and ..... an unashamed Huckabee supporter)
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To: avg_freeper

I haven’t read that book, but I have read the Helprin book about the old Italian soldier and loved it. I’ll look into “Freddy”. If Huck is a Dewey, though it’s probably Dewey Cheatham.


15 posted on 01/07/2008 10:32:19 AM PST by Defiant (Huckabee puts the goober back in gubernatorial.)
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To: wastedpotential

If you are talking about Huckster’s phony claim that Arkansas spending went up because of roads ... well, that’s one of his flim-flam fibs ... Huckster create a program called ArKids, Govt helathcare welfare program, like the SCHIP program. That massively increased Arkansas spending and led to tax hikes, like the sales tax hike.


16 posted on 01/07/2008 10:38:30 AM PST by WOSG (Iowa gave us a CLUSTERHUCK)
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To: wastedpotential

If you are talking about Huckster’s phony claim that Arkansas spending went up because of roads ... well, that’s one of his flim-flam fibs ... Huckster created a program in 1998 called ArKids, a Govt healthcare welfare program like the SCHIP program. That massively increased Arkansas spending and led to tax hikes, like the sales tax hike. That plus more for state public schools (hence the NEA endorsements) and higher spending overall. Huckabee’s F grade from Cato and his tax and spend record is not just about roads.

Instead, Huckabee bloviated about pheasant hunting and called himself an “authentic conservative,” but didn’t explain how an “authentic conservative” could have supported or raised as many tax hikes as he did as Governor of Arkansas. These include:

* Sales Tax, 1996 (Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 11/07/96)
* Gas and Diesel Fuel Taxes, 1999 (Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 04/02/99, 04/25/99)
* Sales Tax, 2000 (Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 09/25/02)
* Cigarette Tax, 2001 (Associated Press, 04/02/01)
* Nursing Home Bed Tax, 2001 (Associated Press, 06/25/01)
* Sales Tax, 2002 (Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 11/15/02)
* Income Surcharge Tax, 2003 (Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 10/09/07)
* Tobacco Tax, 2003 (Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 10/09/07)
* Internet Taxes, 2004 (Bond Buyer, 02/24/04)


17 posted on 01/07/2008 10:40:32 AM PST by WOSG (Iowa gave us a CLUSTERHUCK)
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