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Iranians threaten to blow up US Navy ships _ Hormuz Strait
Telegraph UK ^ | 4:12pm GMT 07/01/2008 | Damien McElroy, Foreign Affairs Correspondent

Posted on 01/07/2008 10:27:59 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

US Navy commanders were moments away from firing on Iranian attack ships during a skirmish in the Straits of Hormuz, it has emerged.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: boris; energy; hormuz; iran; irgc; lebartus; middleeast; navy; persiangulf; usn; usshopper; ussingraham; ussportroyal
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To: rfp1234

What is that thing?


81 posted on 01/07/2008 11:59:26 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: rfp1234

Is that Barney? Does Bush know he is out of the yard?


82 posted on 01/07/2008 12:00:27 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: Travis McGee

Apparently the President stayed on the Economy message in Chicago,....CNBC cut away.... Fox was off chasing other topics.


83 posted on 01/07/2008 12:02:08 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; RightWhale

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,190462,00.html


84 posted on 01/07/2008 12:26:53 PM PST by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: RightWhale
Is that Barney? Does Bush know he is out of the yard?

Oh, no, our cover's blown - the secret Bush conspiracy to unleash the "Dogs of War" on Iran has been exposed...

85 posted on 01/07/2008 12:29:24 PM PST by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I have to agree. This cannot be tolerated. The Iranians need to be shown that there are limits to our patience, and they’re quickly approaching that limit.


86 posted on 01/07/2008 12:49:19 PM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Incredible. Three 24-hour news channels and we’re more poorly-informed than ever. What a disgrace.


87 posted on 01/07/2008 12:52:01 PM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: RightWhale; Ernest_at_the_Beach; dragnet2
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080107/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/navy_crash_3

Mid-air collision between two F/A-18s. All three crewmen were rescued. 5th Fleet says they were providing CAS over Iraq.
88 posted on 01/07/2008 12:59:08 PM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: rfp1234
Thsnks.....

what it called a "super-modern flying boat"

89 posted on 01/07/2008 1:05:45 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: All
BBC:

Iran boats 'threatened US ships'

Monday, 7 January 2008, 20:46 GMT

Iran boats 'threatened US ships'
USS Port Royal (file image dated 18 December 2007)
The Pentagon insists the three vessels were in international waters
Five Iranian speedboats harassed three US navy ships at the weekend, approaching them and radioing a threat to blow them up, US officials say.

The incident happened in the Strait of Hormuz, a major oil shipping route. The US said their ships were about to open fire when the Iranian boats withdrew.

The White House warned Iran against "provocative actions that could lead to a dangerous incident in the future".

Iran played down the event, describing it as an "ordinary occurrence".

"This... happens for the two sides every once in a while and, after the identification of the two sides, the issue is resolved," foreign ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini said.

Official media also reported the US statement about Iran's allegedly threatening behaviour with scepticism, implying that Washington was exaggerating the incident.

'Serious provocation'

The speedboats, believed to belong to Iran's Revolutionary Guards, came within about 200m of the US vessels, Pentagon officials said.

"I am coming at you. You will explode in a couple of minutes," the Iranians said in a radio transmission, according to US officials.

Map showing Strait of Hormuz, with satellite photo
The Iranian boats were operating at "distances and speeds that showed reckless, dangerous and potentially hostile intent," said Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman.

He said at least some of the boats were visibly armed.

US sailors assumed battle stations and the captain on one of the ships was about to order an attack when the Iranian boats turned away, dropping unidentified objects in the path of the vessel, US officials said.

The confrontation, which occurred at about 0400 local time on Sunday or late on Saturday in Washington, lasted about 20 minutes, according to the US.

The Pentagon has insisted that the three US vessels - identified as navy cruiser USS Port Royal, destroyer USS Hopper and frigate USS Ingraham - were in international waters.

The incident follows a row that erupted last March when Iranian Revolutionary Guards captured 15 British sailors and held them for nearly two weeks.

Iran said the crew had strayed into Iranian waters, a claim which Britain disputed.

The Revolutionary Guards, set up in 1979 to defend the country's Islamic system, has been designated by the US as a "proliferator of weapons of mass destruction".

Ready to respond

The latest confrontation comes as US President George Bush is to begin a tour of the Middle East on Wednesday.

Long-standing US-Iranian tensions remain over Iran's nuclear programme, although these have been somewhat reduced since the US intelligence community released a report in late 2007 that said Iran had stopped its nuclear weapons programme in 2003.

The BBC's Paul Reynolds says the key question is whether this is a one-off incident or whether it heralds a more aggressive stance by the Iranian Revolutionary Guards.

The latter policy would be unexpected, given the lowering of tension over the nuclear issue, he says, but as the incident of the captured British naval personnel showed, tensions are always high.

There is no doubt that the US is ready to respond, our correspondent adds.


90 posted on 01/07/2008 1:11:05 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Ten months ago, the Iranians tested British resolve in the Gulf, and came away with an important propaganda victory after capturing 15 Royal Navy sailors and marines.”

I have a feeling that crap isn’t going to fly with the USN.


91 posted on 01/07/2008 1:15:42 PM PST by dljordan
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To: dljordan

See post #90.... They left early.


92 posted on 01/07/2008 1:18:43 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: RightWhale

“A couple five inch shells going over the bow might impress these warriors.”

A couple of five inch shells going THROUGH the bow would impress then a lot more.


93 posted on 01/07/2008 1:20:28 PM PST by dljordan
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
200 Yards is "Danger close" on the water - particularly for any vessel of any size like I'm sure ours are. Even a small frigate has trouble taking evasive action in that distance if at speed.

Personally I think we should have sunk each and every one of the Iranian small craft; and, as we did in the Israeli attack on the Syrian nuclear site, refuse any comment whatsoever!!

94 posted on 01/07/2008 1:31:28 PM PST by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out Of Qurans)
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To: livius

That is what scares me. These ships are probably like flies compared to the Navy ships but all it takes is one or two to get through the curtain.
They need to end it before it starts.


95 posted on 01/07/2008 1:31:57 PM PST by newnhdad
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To: Cyber Liberty
>>>How did the Iranians know there was “an order to fire?”<<<

Another question: If there was "an order to fire", why didn't we fire....the lag between the order and execution should be milliseconds in a "danger close" situation such as this was.

96 posted on 01/07/2008 1:35:56 PM PST by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out Of Qurans)
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To: stuartcr

That happened to my brother. He was a chief gunners mate.
He was on a naval ship sitting on the Thames during a German air raid.( WWII) Everything black out.

He’d had enough and opened up w/ one of the ship’s gun.
Got thrown in the brig.


97 posted on 01/07/2008 2:03:48 PM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Cyber Liberty

A big clue were the 5” guns pointed in their general direction...

Warning klaxons go off when the guns train out...The next sound you here is this big bang followed by stillness...

I cannot confirm the next events due to I do not believe anything about 72 virgins in paradise...


98 posted on 01/07/2008 2:11:32 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: MEG33

Trust me Meg...

They will exact a heavy toll upon the enemy...

I only wish I was there again...


99 posted on 01/07/2008 2:13:32 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bring it Iran. You’re toast.

Ron Paul thinks they have no military, eh? LOL


100 posted on 01/07/2008 2:19:01 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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