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1 posted on 01/08/2008 8:38:22 AM PST by mngran2
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This is such b.s.

If health care is so bad here and unavailable to poor people, why is it that relatives of illegals come here to ‘vacation’ when they get a bad diagnosis from a Mexican doctor?

These relatives come straight from the airport to the ER where they are immediately hospitalized. And you and I pay for their care.


31 posted on 01/08/2008 9:03:22 AM PST by ladyjane
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That’s because France doesn’t try to prevent any deaths, they just let people die in that Socialist country they run.


32 posted on 01/08/2008 9:03:36 AM PST by madison10
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“Researchers ... of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine tracked deaths that they deemed could have been prevented by access to timely and effective health care, and ranked nations on how they did.”

These folks wouldn’t be connected to that peroper(never wrong) British Publication the Lancet, would they? That’s the Lancet with those laughable Iraq death rates. That’s the Lancet who’s numeral anslysis techniques have been thoroughly discredited by real mathematicians...not Drs, lawyers, and journalists.


34 posted on 01/08/2008 9:06:54 AM PST by Da Coyote
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When I was in Marseilles last summer, out guide told us they had a shortage of doctors in France. She said 40% of the people with cancer in her region never get to see an oncologist. She wasn’t too impressed with their system.


37 posted on 01/08/2008 9:11:57 AM PST by Marathoner 244
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Just another push for US socialized medicine.


38 posted on 01/08/2008 9:13:20 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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Such nice round numbers. They fit the shape of the colons from which they were pulled.


39 posted on 01/08/2008 9:13:56 AM PST by DungeonMaster (WELL I SPEAK LOUD, AND I CARRY A BIGGER STICK, AND I USE IT TOO!)
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How much of this is honest reporting of the causes of death? There have been a few recent articles about patients dying in British hospitals from hospital caused infections and their death certificates report other causes.
42 posted on 01/08/2008 9:15:43 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Rattenschadenfreude: joy at a Democrat's pain, especially Hillary's pain caused by Obama.)
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......deaths that they deemed could have been prevented by access....... - This is a study? How does this crap get published?
43 posted on 01/08/2008 9:18:49 AM PST by bobsatwork
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So all we need is a nanny state with nationalized health care and we will become a paradise????


44 posted on 01/08/2008 9:19:28 AM PST by nuke rocketeer (File CONGRESS.SYS corrupted: Re-boot Washington D.C (Y/N)?)
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Yes, it’s always about the health insurance nowadays. Remember that election cycle when it was always about “the children”?

Even with health insurance, many people would be too irresponsible and lazy to do something until crisis time. Look at all the obesity here now. A certain percentage of the country doesn’t care about its health until it’s too late. That won’t change with universal care. All that will change is the dumbing down of the greatest health care the world has ever seen.


46 posted on 01/08/2008 9:20:12 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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Oh, to be safe, and French! To eat of ze cheeze and to be, 'ow you say, a minkey.

/sarc

50 posted on 01/08/2008 9:36:39 AM PST by Ol' Sox
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That’s getting boring.

Every year there is a study (or a “movie”!) satying that the French have the best healthcare and the US one of the worst.

I am sure we could easily find some links to some studies saying the opposite but we have better things to do.


53 posted on 01/08/2008 9:44:47 AM PST by darkness78 (y)
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Face it, the French eat less, therefore fewer die of fat-related diseases. Eating less and weighing less would contribute to preventing deaths in the US far more than insurance coverage would.

In the end, most people die of stupidity.


56 posted on 01/08/2008 9:52:44 AM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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Sounds like BS to me.


64 posted on 01/08/2008 11:11:00 AM PST by RockinRight (Huck(abee, not the Freeper Huck) Sucks.)
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This is nuts! The European healthcare system is based on delay and deny triage. So, what the article is actually saying is that patients who see a doctor with a treatable disease or injury and are still ailing when they get to the doctor after the mandatory three month waiting period, have a better cure rate than US patients that are treated in emergency rooms and clinics.


66 posted on 01/08/2008 12:40:48 PM PST by Eva
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