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• Three U.S. Navy Ships Approached by Iranian Boat-(video)
DOD ^ | 1/9/08 | DOD

Posted on 01/08/2008 6:25:21 PM PST by Flavius

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To: Pontiac
Paint the aggressors with an Aegis radar all nice and focused. Instant jerky.
21 posted on 01/08/2008 7:18:31 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("Has there been a code nine? Have you heard from the Doctor?")
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To: Virulas
Thank Allah they were wearing life preservers. I hate to see unsafe operation of recreational watercraft.

I was thinking the same thing. Where's the best bass fishing in the Straits of Hormuz, I wonder.

22 posted on 01/08/2008 7:19:28 PM PST by bubbacluck
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To: rmccullo
They were well in the range of fire of the SeaWiz.
23 posted on 01/08/2008 7:20:04 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("Has there been a code nine? Have you heard from the Doctor?")
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To: Virulas
Thank Allah they were wearing life preservers. I hate to see unsafe operation of recreational watercraft.

I was thinking the same thing. Where's the best bass fishing in the Straits of Hormuz, I wonder.

24 posted on 01/08/2008 7:20:08 PM PST by bubbacluck
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To: G8 Diplomat
It was a dry run for brazen minelaying as a way of getting another Cole attack.

You will notice they did not remotely "get creamed". When they drop real mines in the water, they will hit a warship successfully. They really don't care a lick when they go see their virgins, and if they can trade 3 dingies for a billion dollar Aegis cruiser whenever they feel like it, they know they can close the strait.

We are wusses for letting them live. Determining whether they could get that close without being shot was the whole point of the exercise, and now they know. And we will pay, as a result.

25 posted on 01/08/2008 7:22:51 PM PST by JasonC
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To: Flavius

Unleash the CWIS on them the next time, and we will see what happens...they better bring more than 100 boats when that thing starts going off...


26 posted on 01/08/2008 7:23:59 PM PST by Fedupwithit (If you waste your time thinking about what if, you will miss what was)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
It was warranted already. The dummies they dropped could just as easily have been real mines. If the men aboard the Cole waited to see if a severe response was "warranted", they'd have been hit and taken out even if they were all at battle stations and saw everything.
27 posted on 01/08/2008 7:24:33 PM PST by JasonC
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To: mad_as_he$$
Paint the aggressors with an Aegis radar all nice and focused. Instant jerky.

I thought of that, it was my first thought. But I also thought they may not see it

I figure that a say one or two foot wide bright red dot on the forward deck would say “We see you and can blow you out of the water any time we like.”

What our lasers can illuminate we can hit with a missile. Every military man in the world should know that these days.

28 posted on 01/08/2008 7:24:49 PM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Flavius; elhombrelibre; Tennessean4Bush

Bump and ping!


29 posted on 01/08/2008 7:25:16 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"can". Well, the muscle is connected to the head-bone. If the head-bone is made of silly putty, the Iranians can murder whoever they please.
30 posted on 01/08/2008 7:25:58 PM PST by JasonC
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To: liege
Photobucket Don't make me explode!
31 posted on 01/08/2008 7:26:05 PM PST by rahbert
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To: Secret Agent Man
" I do remember reading that Iran has LOTS of small fast boats - just cram ‘em full of explosives and two drivers (if one gets nailed) and drive them fast in large numbers towards our ships. It’s not like we have ships that have dozens of gunner turrets that can work on a hundred+ incoming targets that are zigzagging their way towards them."

I don't know how close air support is for one of those warships but I bets it's not far away. I would think that even a thousand small boats out on the open water would be sitting ducks for a buch of choppers decked out with those heavy duty gattling guns.

32 posted on 01/08/2008 7:37:21 PM PST by joebuck
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To: joebuck

I had a problem with sampans.


33 posted on 01/08/2008 7:43:43 PM PST by battlegearboat
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To: Flavius
Why are they still alive?

This is like a thief walking into my home, and as long as he does not endanger our lives, we can do nothing about it.

My wife and I would be forced to watch him take everything we own, and we must simply sit there and watch him do it.

34 posted on 01/08/2008 7:47:24 PM PST by Hunble
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To: joebuck

Yes, but I would imagine the boats would have a couple shoulder launched SAMs along for the ride.


35 posted on 01/08/2008 7:55:15 PM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: Pontiac
I thought of that, it was my first thought. But I also thought they may not see it

I think you miss the point. Radar that powerful would literally cook the iranian sailors just as if they were in a microwave oven. Just the radar is lethal to unshielded biomass.

36 posted on 01/08/2008 8:03:45 PM PST by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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To: All
speedboats with torpedoes

Semi-submersible Fast Attack Craft

Quantity in service: 3 (est) 1 x Taedong-B “Kajami” 2 x Taedong-C “Gahjae”

Iran is reported to operate a small number of North Korean designed Taedong-B and Taedong-C semi-submersible attack craft delivered in 2002. At least one such boat, thought to be a Taedong-B “Kajami”, has been publicly displayed during war-games. This appearance substantiates previous media reports but beyond that much remains speculation.

Both types are believed to be equipped with lightweight 324mm (12.75”) torpedoes. Typical torpedoes in this size class have a range of between 6km and 10km. It is extremely unlikely that these boats will be refitted with the larger Shkval rocket torpedo or anti-ship missiles.

It is not clear whether the attack profiles of these boats is to lay in wait submerged and then attack at high speed on the surface, or vice versa to approach at high speed then submerge for the final stage of the attack. The boats can probably dive to about 3m depth using a snort mast which remains on/near the surface. The vessel is probably capable of about 40kts on the surface and about 10kts submerged.

It is reported that the Taedong-C class closely resembles the Peykaap class torpedo boat, and it may be that the Peykaap is itself the submersible boat, although that seems unlikely. Although these boats offer some novel tactical opportunities for Iran, they are unlikely to be successful if operating against larger warships armed with their own anti-submarine torpedoes, or fast moving targets. The lightweight torpedoes are unlikely to sink even a modest warship although obviously a successful attack could immobilize even a large warship.

Quantity in Service: 10 + Displacement: 19 tons Dimensions: L 13.65m, W 4.8m, Dr 0.7m Crew: 10 Endurance: 300nm Speed: 55kt Powerplant: 2 x 1150hp Armament: 4 x TL-10 or C-701 Kowsar light anti-ship missiles, 1 x manned cannon (20mm?)

10 C-14 missile armed catamarans were ordered from Chinese manufacturer CSSC in 2002, with local production. At least one vessel has been completed in a non-missile configuration and the type is offered in the Iranian defence industry’s export catalogue. The missile equipped boats appear to differ in detail from the CSSC demonstrators with a different (lesser) sensor fit. The C-701 missile is of Chinese origin though manufactured under license in Iran. It has a 20-25km range and can be TV or Radar guided, making it ideal for littoral combat. Many reports indicate that the China Cat may employ the Chinese supplied TL-10 anti-ship missile instead of the C-701 described above. The two missile types are generally similar in overall size and capability, albeit different designs. Both come with a range of seekers and minor sub-versions tailored to specific customer needs. The boats pack an enormous punch for their size and have apparently superb sea keeping for their size (though by no means ocean going vessels), but their air defence is conspicuously lacking.

37 posted on 01/08/2008 8:21:04 PM PST by Flavius (24/7)
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To: Flavius
Here Kitty Kitty!!

Phalanx

38 posted on 01/08/2008 8:22:17 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: Flavius

I think they are taking their IED tactics to the water. Planning future attacks by gaging our response to hostile actions and using this to try to direct us over their pre-planted explosives.


39 posted on 01/08/2008 8:40:31 PM PST by BOBWADE
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To: onedoug

Well, the situation ended with no shots fired, and no people are dead.

In general, and I know some people will find this sacriligeous, ending a situation without killing people is a good thing, unless those particular people have already killed other people.


40 posted on 01/08/2008 8:46:47 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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