Posted on 01/08/2008 6:25:21 PM PST by Flavius
I was thinking the same thing. Where's the best bass fishing in the Straits of Hormuz, I wonder.
I was thinking the same thing. Where's the best bass fishing in the Straits of Hormuz, I wonder.
You will notice they did not remotely "get creamed". When they drop real mines in the water, they will hit a warship successfully. They really don't care a lick when they go see their virgins, and if they can trade 3 dingies for a billion dollar Aegis cruiser whenever they feel like it, they know they can close the strait.
We are wusses for letting them live. Determining whether they could get that close without being shot was the whole point of the exercise, and now they know. And we will pay, as a result.
Unleash the CWIS on them the next time, and we will see what happens...they better bring more than 100 boats when that thing starts going off...
I thought of that, it was my first thought. But I also thought they may not see it
I figure that a say one or two foot wide bright red dot on the forward deck would say We see you and can blow you out of the water any time we like.
What our lasers can illuminate we can hit with a missile. Every military man in the world should know that these days.
Bump and ping!
I don't know how close air support is for one of those warships but I bets it's not far away. I would think that even a thousand small boats out on the open water would be sitting ducks for a buch of choppers decked out with those heavy duty gattling guns.
I had a problem with sampans.
This is like a thief walking into my home, and as long as he does not endanger our lives, we can do nothing about it.
My wife and I would be forced to watch him take everything we own, and we must simply sit there and watch him do it.
Yes, but I would imagine the boats would have a couple shoulder launched SAMs along for the ride.
I think you miss the point. Radar that powerful would literally cook the iranian sailors just as if they were in a microwave oven. Just the radar is lethal to unshielded biomass.
Semi-submersible Fast Attack Craft
Quantity in service: 3 (est) 1 x Taedong-B Kajami 2 x Taedong-C Gahjae
Iran is reported to operate a small number of North Korean designed Taedong-B and Taedong-C semi-submersible attack craft delivered in 2002. At least one such boat, thought to be a Taedong-B Kajami, has been publicly displayed during war-games. This appearance substantiates previous media reports but beyond that much remains speculation.
Both types are believed to be equipped with lightweight 324mm (12.75) torpedoes. Typical torpedoes in this size class have a range of between 6km and 10km. It is extremely unlikely that these boats will be refitted with the larger Shkval rocket torpedo or anti-ship missiles.
It is not clear whether the attack profiles of these boats is to lay in wait submerged and then attack at high speed on the surface, or vice versa to approach at high speed then submerge for the final stage of the attack. The boats can probably dive to about 3m depth using a snort mast which remains on/near the surface. The vessel is probably capable of about 40kts on the surface and about 10kts submerged.
It is reported that the Taedong-C class closely resembles the Peykaap class torpedo boat, and it may be that the Peykaap is itself the submersible boat, although that seems unlikely. Although these boats offer some novel tactical opportunities for Iran, they are unlikely to be successful if operating against larger warships armed with their own anti-submarine torpedoes, or fast moving targets. The lightweight torpedoes are unlikely to sink even a modest warship although obviously a successful attack could immobilize even a large warship.
Quantity in Service: 10 + Displacement: 19 tons Dimensions: L 13.65m, W 4.8m, Dr 0.7m Crew: 10 Endurance: 300nm Speed: 55kt Powerplant: 2 x 1150hp Armament: 4 x TL-10 or C-701 Kowsar light anti-ship missiles, 1 x manned cannon (20mm?)
10 C-14 missile armed catamarans were ordered from Chinese manufacturer CSSC in 2002, with local production. At least one vessel has been completed in a non-missile configuration and the type is offered in the Iranian defence industrys export catalogue. The missile equipped boats appear to differ in detail from the CSSC demonstrators with a different (lesser) sensor fit. The C-701 missile is of Chinese origin though manufactured under license in Iran. It has a 20-25km range and can be TV or Radar guided, making it ideal for littoral combat. Many reports indicate that the China Cat may employ the Chinese supplied TL-10 anti-ship missile instead of the C-701 described above. The two missile types are generally similar in overall size and capability, albeit different designs. Both come with a range of seekers and minor sub-versions tailored to specific customer needs. The boats pack an enormous punch for their size and have apparently superb sea keeping for their size (though by no means ocean going vessels), but their air defence is conspicuously lacking.
Phalanx
I think they are taking their IED tactics to the water. Planning future attacks by gaging our response to hostile actions and using this to try to direct us over their pre-planted explosives.
Well, the situation ended with no shots fired, and no people are dead.
In general, and I know some people will find this sacriligeous, ending a situation without killing people is a good thing, unless those particular people have already killed other people.
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