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To: Paladin2
"The cost of gov't is pretty clear on a weekly, bi-weekly, monthly paycheck too."

Paychecks tell you how much you get to keep, not how much the government takes.

"Income tax forms makes it relatively clear too."

No, they don't. Not to H&R Block tax preparers, not to CPAs, not even to IRS auditors. At the end of it all, I know my top line income, and my income tax. Nowhere does a tax form tell me how much I have paid to the government in income and payroll (Social Security and Medicare) taxes.

People file tax forms with the goal of seeing how many dollars they can get back, not how many percentage points they can reduce their tax burden.

And yes, I once heard a talk radio caller claim he didn't pay any taxes, he got money back!

"If the objective to make the cost of gov't clear, why not point out that the FT is a 30% sales tax?"

Replacing a 30% income and payroll tax. So what is your point? The cost of new goods will go up 30%, but your income will go up by 30%.

12 posted on 01/09/2008 6:10:53 AM PST by magellan
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To: magellan
Does HR25 say your pay will go up 30%?

(drag to URL box if using Firefox):

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.25.IH:

Didn't think so.

14 posted on 01/09/2008 6:23:58 AM PST by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: magellan
Paychecks tell you how much you get to keep, not how much the government takes.
It's called a check stub. It's all there.
Nowhere does a tax form tell me how much I have paid to the government in income and payroll (Social Security and Medicare) taxes.
It's the line right above where you sign you name on every tax return.Some simple math may be required if you paid too much.
People file tax forms with the goal of seeing how many dollars they can get back, not how many percentage points they can reduce their tax burden.
That sounds like the 30% is 23% argument.
Paychecks tell you how much you get to keep, not how much the government takes.

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The cost of new goods will go up 30%, but your income will go up by 30%.

How can you suddenly be so sure when you don't know how much the government takes in the first place?
16 posted on 01/09/2008 7:58:33 AM PST by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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