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Huckabee retreats on birthright citizenship
Washington Times ^ | January 9, 2008 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 01/09/2008 6:45:10 AM PST by 3AngelaD

Mike Huckabee yesterday contradicted his own top immigration surrogate, announcing he will not support a constitutional amendment to end birthright citizenship for children born in the United States to illegal aliens.

It was a stark reversal after The Washington Times reported that James Gilchrist, founder of the Minuteman Project, said Huckabee promised to pursue an amendment to the Constitution. In an article in yesterday's editions, Huckabee's spokeswoman did not challenge the former Arkansas governor's statements to Gilchrist...But by yesterday afternoon, Huckabee had backed away..."I do not support an amendment to the Constitution that would prevent children born in the U.S. to illegal aliens from automatically becoming American citizens. I have no intention of supporting a constitutional amendment to deny birthright citizenship," Mr. Huckabee said...

The Times reported that Gilchrist, in a conversation while campaigning with Mr. Huckabee last week, pinned down the Republican presidential candidate on various immigration stances, including how he would address what most legal scholars see as the 14th Amendment's guarantee of citizenship to any person born in the United States, except for diplomatic situations.

Gilchrist said Huckabee promised to bring a test case to the Supreme Court...and would press Congress to pass an amendment to the Constitution.... Huckabee also said on CNN that he hasn't given much thought to the issue of birthright citizenship. But he previously had taken a position in an interview with The Times in Iowa in August.

"I would support changing that. I think there is reason to revisit that, just because a person, through sheer chance of geography, happened to be physically here at the point of birth, doesn't necessarily constitute citizenship," he said at the time, according to the audiotape of the interview. "I think that's a very reasonable thing to do, to revisit that."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; anchorbabies; flipflopper; gilchrist; huckabee; huckster; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; mikehuckabee
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He was for it before he was against it.
1 posted on 01/09/2008 6:45:11 AM PST by 3AngelaD
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To: 3AngelaD

Flip.

Flop.

Anybody surprised by this one?


2 posted on 01/09/2008 6:45:47 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: 3AngelaD

Only those not taken in by the Huckster didn’t see this coming.


3 posted on 01/09/2008 6:46:25 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: raybbr

As I pointed out yesterday, he thinks we are THAT STUPID.


4 posted on 01/09/2008 6:47:05 AM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: raybbr
Only those not taken in by the Huckster didn’t see this coming.

Sheesh.

Only those taken in by the Huckster didn't see this coming.

5 posted on 01/09/2008 6:47:22 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: highball

No.


6 posted on 01/09/2008 6:47:50 AM PST by Jane Austen
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To: 3AngelaD

Isn’t Gilchrest kind of a loose cannon? He may have just been shooting off his mouth.


7 posted on 01/09/2008 6:48:00 AM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: 3AngelaD

Another reason not to vote for him.


8 posted on 01/09/2008 6:48:04 AM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (Ron Paul is nutcase, plain & simple.)
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To: 3AngelaD

You have got to be kidding me. How long did this take? 2 days?


9 posted on 01/09/2008 6:48:36 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: 3AngelaD

I think that all of us knew about the huckster. Anyone surprised? Now we’ll find out what kind of person James Gilchrist really is. Will he continue to support Huckabee?


11 posted on 01/09/2008 6:48:58 AM PST by FreePaul
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To: Greg F

That was my thought as well. It wouldn’t shock me if Huckabee did flip flop, but it appears Huckabee himself never said he in favor of such an amendment.


12 posted on 01/09/2008 6:49:12 AM PST by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: 3AngelaD

I’m so shocked by this. Really. I swear.


13 posted on 01/09/2008 6:49:17 AM PST by Hoodlum91 (I support global warming.)
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To: 3AngelaD

Yes, he does. Apparently he fooled some in Iowa. And media loves him. If Thompson or Hunter’s son had covered up the hanging of a dog, it would be front page and lead story on cabel news.


14 posted on 01/09/2008 6:49:50 AM PST by Jane Austen
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To: 3AngelaD

Are we suppose to be surprised?

Fred is the man.


15 posted on 01/09/2008 6:50:17 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: highball

My question is why does he need to flip-flop at all when he is onl record as wanting to colonize America with illegal aliens to make atonement for slavery? Wouldn’t they all be citizens under the Huckster plan without the need to be actually born here?


16 posted on 01/09/2008 6:50:20 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian

Read the last two paragraphs, above, of this post. I think the statement, “I would support changing that....” is fairly straightforward.


17 posted on 01/09/2008 6:51:26 AM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: FreePaul

Now we’ll find out what kind of person James Gilchrist really is.

&&&

Well, at least, this story answers a question I had about Gilchrist’s surprising support of the Huckster.


18 posted on 01/09/2008 6:51:29 AM PST by Bigg Red (Duncan Hunter in 2008!)
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To: 3AngelaD

19 posted on 01/09/2008 6:52:25 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( UNITED BY OUR CORE BELIEFS Fred08)
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To: 3AngelaD

The guy standing in the middle could be a John Candy double.


20 posted on 01/09/2008 6:52:36 AM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: 3AngelaD

Welcome to the camp
I guess you know why you’re here
My name is Hucky
And I became a hit this year
If you want to follow me
You have to play pinball
And put in your earplugs
Put on you eyeshades
You know where to put the cork...


21 posted on 01/09/2008 6:53:02 AM PST by LRS (It's time to put Hillary on the 3:10 to Yuma...)
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To: 3AngelaD

So, Gilchrist got lied to by Huckabee for the purpose of obtaining his endorsement.

Well Mr. Gilchrist, you now have something in common with the rest of the American people.


22 posted on 01/09/2008 6:53:18 AM PST by NavVet (If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primary, you won't have it to defend in the General Election)
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To: TornadoAlley3

You should be careful with that graphic. It could trigger seizures! Don’t you have a nice pair of flaming pants you could post instead?


23 posted on 01/09/2008 6:54:21 AM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: KC_Conspirator

And to think I just gave him a “mental five” for the plan just yesterday and today it’s gone.


24 posted on 01/09/2008 6:55:38 AM PST by sarasota
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To: 3AngelaD
God I hope the evangelicals down south don't follow the Iowa morons and wise up about this spineless say anything left leaning Huckster.

He is the one candidate that will cause me to do the one thing I vowed never to do. If Huck wins the nomination I will vote third party or write in.

4 years of this Jimmy Carter Jr. would destroy Republican chances for the next 20 years. I would rather suffer the pains of Hillary or Obama, and I can't believe I can even say that.

I could hold my nose and vote for the 3 Stooges - Rudy McRomney, but never for the Huckster.

PLease please please get your head out of your Arse America and get behind Fred!

25 posted on 01/09/2008 6:55:50 AM PST by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: Bigg Red

For months I have been under the impression that neither Gilchrist nor Huckabee are ready for prime time.


26 posted on 01/09/2008 6:55:53 AM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: 3AngelaD

You were reading my mind. Exactly...
Or is it I changed my mind after I changed my mind back to the way I thought when I had changed my mind.


27 posted on 01/09/2008 6:56:20 AM PST by donnab (saving liberal brains...one moron at a time.)
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To: 3AngelaD
As I pointed out yesterday, he thinks we are THAT STUPID

Apparently, some of "us" are.

(Present company excluded, of course)

28 posted on 01/09/2008 6:56:41 AM PST by Mygirlsmom (Who cares who does Hillie's hair---see her cry when you ask her where she gets her HSUS)
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To: 3AngelaD

For a Marine, one who took a bullet in ‘Nam, Jim is amazingly naive. It can be an endearing quality, although quite embarrassing to him personally time and again.


29 posted on 01/09/2008 6:57:28 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Cut the heart out of the GOP platform, and the party will be nothing but "a Weekend at Bernie's...)
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To: 3AngelaD

So why would I bother stopping at the polling place which is 100 yards from the path that I normally take on my way to work to vote for someone who isn’t going to help the situation?


30 posted on 01/09/2008 6:57:57 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Republicans are only slightly better than dems. not enough for me to bother voting.)
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To: 3AngelaD
Inept move by the Huckabee camp.

Personally, I support birthright citizenship.

31 posted on 01/09/2008 6:58:17 AM PST by JohnnyZ ("When we say I saw the PATRIOTS win the WORLD SERIES, it doesn't necessarily mean ...." - Mitt)
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To: 3AngelaD

He sounded reasonable, until he didn’t.

Since I have not been here for a very long time, can anyone tell me what the FREEPERS are pushing for in percentage per candidate?

Seems like there are some Huckabee fans and Romney fans. Not many Giuiliani or McCain fans. And that Thompson is the favorite by a large percentage. Something like:

Thomson 80%
Romney/Huckabee 10%
McCain/Guiliani 5%
Who knows: 5%

Close?


32 posted on 01/09/2008 6:58:56 AM PST by tortdog
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To: 3AngelaD

Revisit this.


33 posted on 01/09/2008 6:59:06 AM PST by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss..)
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To: Greg F

Could be, but given the Hucksters other fabrications, talking to Bolton comes to mind, I would bet it’s just another one of many lies Huck will float.


34 posted on 01/09/2008 6:59:30 AM PST by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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To: All

Maybe.....we should just ASK him about this.


35 posted on 01/09/2008 6:59:59 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: donnab

The Real Conservative! Please listen to this! See if you would change your mind! Not me!

http://newsradioword.com/Fred-Thompson-at-Stax-Omega-on-Jan—8th-—Listen-t/1446603


36 posted on 01/09/2008 6:59:59 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: Greg F
Isn’t Gilchrest kind of a loose cannon? He may have just been shooting off his mouth.

That fits both he and the Huckster, IMO.

37 posted on 01/09/2008 7:00:49 AM PST by lonestar
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To: highball; raybbr
I must have been taken in by the Huckster, because I didn't see this coming. But at least now I can eliminate Huckabee as a candidate I might be able to support. This narrows the field considerably. As far as I'm concerned, Huckabee is out.
38 posted on 01/09/2008 7:01:21 AM PST by Savage Beast ("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
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To: 3AngelaD

What have I been telling everybody since the day the Huckster got into the race? He hasn’t met an illegal alien yet that he won’t kowtow to.


39 posted on 01/09/2008 7:01:26 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE true conservative candidate.)
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To: 3AngelaD
It was a stark reversal after The Washington Times reported that
James Gilchrist, founder of the Minuteman Project, said Huckabee
promised to pursue an amendment to the Constitution.


I still want to get some vials of whatever Huckabee slipped into
Jim Gilchrist's drink.

Because it would come in handy whenever you REALLY, REALLY need
to have someone accept whatever sort of Bravo Sierra is being shipped...
and still like you.
40 posted on 01/09/2008 7:02:10 AM PST by VOA
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To: sarasota

Has to be a winner among the quickest flip flops on the political scene along with Hillary on drivers licenses for illegal aliens. Most politicians have merely flopped on issues, he and Hillary have managed a true flip flop.


41 posted on 01/09/2008 7:02:22 AM PST by Jane Austen
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he will not support a constitutional amendment to end birthright citizenship for children born in the United States to illegal aliens.

Pandering....just what we want in a "leader."

42 posted on 01/09/2008 7:03:17 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Savage Beast
As far as I'm concerned, Huckabee is out.

I made that decision as soon as I learned his history on illegals, too.

43 posted on 01/09/2008 7:04:45 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Eric Blair 2084; flashbunny; NeoCaveman; SoConPubbie; Esther Ruth; pissant; pandoraou812; ...
Huckster Ping.


44 posted on 01/09/2008 7:05:16 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE true conservative candidate.)
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To: 3AngelaD
If you do not like the hucksters position on a certain subject, just give it a few days. He’ll hit on a lie that you will really eat up. What a pos with a brain dead posse.

LLS

45 posted on 01/09/2008 7:06:26 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote Fred!)
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To: azhenfud

that is the grossest picture of misfits this side of a travelling carnival


46 posted on 01/09/2008 7:07:04 AM PST by steel_resolve (If you can't stand behind our troops, then please stand in front...)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Luv it!

LLS


47 posted on 01/09/2008 7:08:35 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote Fred!)
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To: 3AngelaD

The last thing the moonies want is a Christian running the country. I’m sure they will print all kinds of nonsense between now and the election.


48 posted on 01/09/2008 7:08:38 AM PST by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Christ's Kingdom on Earth is the answer. What is your question?)
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To: 3AngelaD

49 posted on 01/09/2008 7:08:51 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( UNITED BY OUR CORE BELIEFS Fred08)
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To: 3AngelaD

Thanks to GWB keeping the lid on terrorism, the illegal/open borders issue is my top issue.

I can’t believe the good people of NH are pro illegal.


50 posted on 01/09/2008 7:09:30 AM PST by Let's Roll (As usual, following a shooting spree, libs want to take guns away from those who DIDN'T do it.)
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