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Supreme Court appears likely to back voter ID law
CNN Washington Bureau ^ | January 9, 2008 | Bill Mears

Posted on 01/09/2008 8:22:32 PM PST by My_Name_is_a_Number

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A conservative majority of the Supreme Court appeared ready Wednesday to support an Indiana law requiring voters to show photo identification, despite concerns that it could deprive thousands of people of their right to vote. The Supreme Court is reviewing an Indiana law that requires voters to show a photo ID. At issue is whether state laws designed to stem voter fraud would disenfranchise large numbers of Americans who might lack proper identification -- many of them elderly, poor or minority voters. In what has become a highly partisan legal and political fight, the justices wrestled with a balancing test of sorts to ensure both state and individual interests were addressed. Civil rights activists and the state Democratic Party complain Indiana's law is the most restrictive in the nation. "The real question is, does it disenfranchise anyone?"

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: photoid; scotus; testit2; voterfraud; voterid
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To: My_Name_is_a_Number
despite concerns that it could deprive thousands of people of their right to vote.

Illegal aliens have no "right" to vote.

41 posted on 01/09/2008 9:14:44 PM PST by Lexinom (Build the fence and call China to account. GoHunter08.com)
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To: My_Name_is_a_Number
For what it's worth, this from Rasmussen poll:

80% Believe Voters Should Be Required to Show Photo ID
Wednesday, January 09, 2008P

A recent Rasmussen Reports telephone survey found 80% of voters believe everyone should be required to show photo identification to vote. Only 13% disagree.

Full article here: Rasmussen poll

42 posted on 01/09/2008 9:15:03 PM PST by Ymani Cricket
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To: My_Name_is_a_Number

.... not to mention there is PLENTY of time TO GET THE ID BEFORE the election in November!!! No excuses!! No PHOTO ID, no vote!!


43 posted on 01/09/2008 9:15:23 PM PST by pollywog (Joshua 1:9 Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid,)
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To: My_Name_is_a_Number

BTTT! This is the best news I’ve heard in a while- I hope it happens.


44 posted on 01/09/2008 9:17:38 PM PST by ovrtaxt (People seemed to be content, $50 paid the rent, FREAKS WERE IN A CIRCUS TENT, Those were the days.)
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To: Ymani Cricket
my grandmother never had a drivers liscense. She still has never driven, to this day. (she’s in her 80s) Or a passport. She votes every year. Democrat, but votes nevertheless.

Well, when are YOU going to straighten her out? ;O)

45 posted on 01/09/2008 9:19:19 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: SpaceBar
"I wonder if the justices have to confirm their identity before entering the Supreme Court building."

Ouch. I have been in a newspersons position to watch these people come into the building. I am sad to report that they are pretty much left in without any search.

I know, it's nuts.

46 posted on 01/09/2008 9:23:13 PM PST by AGreatPer ("The Democrats don't give a rats ass about this country"....Rush Limbaugh, 11/15/07)
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To: My_Name_is_a_Number

I predict a 7-2 upholding the Constitutionality of this law. Justices Stevens and Ginsburg will be the dissenters.


47 posted on 01/09/2008 9:27:16 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
The connection between Bush v. Gore and the Indiana case is . . . what exactly?

Both cases involve the Democrats trying to steal a Presidential election. I know that's not the connection Mark Sherman is trying to make, but it is the logical connection nonetheless.

48 posted on 01/09/2008 9:29:59 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
"Strong voter ID laws will be the end of the modern Democrat Party."

Whoooo. I wouldn't quite go that far. But it shure would help.

Shees, Philadelphia had a 105% voting attendance in one precinct. The problem. No one wanted to go there to be an observer.

49 posted on 01/09/2008 9:30:08 PM PST by AGreatPer ("The Democrats don't give a rats ass about this country"....Rush Limbaugh, 11/15/07)
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To: John Jorsett

Ginsburge is against it.


50 posted on 01/09/2008 9:33:08 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: My_Name_is_a_Number

To vote in Mexico you show a photo ID, your photo is on the voter roll at the polling place, and your finger is marked. Why can’t we do something similar here? Voter integrity is very high on my list of things that need to be done.


51 posted on 01/09/2008 9:34:13 PM PST by bubbacluck
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

well, she’s old and stuck in her ways, but I figure with ALL the grandkids being Republican, it sort of cancels her out. :D


52 posted on 01/09/2008 9:34:36 PM PST by Ymani Cricket
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To: My_Name_is_a_Number

The MSM acts like the only kind of “disenfranchisement” is when a voter who is eligible (but couldn’t be bothered to take the most basic steps to prove that) doesn’t get to vote. What about all the people who get disenfranchised when their votes are neutralized by the votes of people who were NOT eligible to vote?


53 posted on 01/09/2008 9:34:58 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Now, if we can get rid of Motor Voter, the absolute worst voter fraud fiasco hoisted on this country by the Democrats.

In California, NOBODY verifies the citizenship of those who register to vote using the Motor Voter program. Fake birth certificate and fake S.S. number, NO PROBLEMO AMIGO...

I would venture a guess that at least 10% of the voters in California, my home State by the way, are not eligible to vote legally.


54 posted on 01/09/2008 9:35:00 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Guns don't kill people, gun free zones kill people)
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To: hercuroc
"The former precinct committeewoman had difficulty rebuilding an identity trail, and still does not have a valid photo ID."

So she spent years taking this to the supreme court, when all she had to do was exert 1/100th of the effort to get a state ID. How was she "prevented" from getting the ID in the first place? She's freakin' 71 and "can't establish" her identity? How does she prove who she is to collect her social security check, or dare I ask?

55 posted on 01/09/2008 9:36:10 PM PST by boop (Democracy is the theory that the people get the government they deserve, good and hard.)
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To: My_Name_is_a_Number

I was reading a DUmmie thread on this the other day. One opinion was (get ready for a major yuck) that unless states provide the cards for free, obtain a persons records needed for verification (birth cert., that sort of thing)....for free. And even provide money for postage needed by person...for free....it would be unconstitutional as it would still disenfrancise the “poor”. LOL! Let’s be real folks. Nothing would ever satisfy the left/dems/libs on this one. People who can provide I.D. to social agencies, check cashing services, etc. are suddenly unable to provide I.D. to vote.


56 posted on 01/09/2008 9:39:38 PM PST by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: My_Name_is_a_Number

I could never understand why showing a photo ID to vote would be in any way unconsitutional. Is it unconstitutional to require a photo ID to board an airplane? Is it unconstitutional to require a photo ID to cash a check, open a savings account, secure a post office box, open a charge account? This is crazy...it is simply the liberal courts playing havoc with their authority. Besides, if you do not have a photo ID, what kind of voter would you make?

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INCREASE THE MILITARY’S STRENGTH AND SIZE (Diplomacy through Strength and verification!)

SECURE AND SEAL THE BORDERS (Don’t give sanctuary anywhere to illegal’s; don’t employ illegal’s; don’t rent to illegal’s; don’t extend credit to illegal’s; don’t give illegal’s rights they have no right to; report all crimes committed by illegal’s to ICE and immediately deport those illegal’s who have already committed crimes against America!) LAW AND ORDER (Enforcement of our current laws regarding illegal immigration!) – DENY FEDERAL DOLLARS TO SANCTUARY CITIES (Enough is enough!)

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57 posted on 01/09/2008 9:39:39 PM PST by Bobbisox (ALL AMERICAN FredHead FREEPER! [FRED THOMPSON will make an amazing Commander in Chief!])
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

It’s pretty hard to find most the people who need to be prosecuted for individual vote fraud. When somebody who has no ID and no eligibility for ID comes in and votes under a name which may or may not bear any resemblance to his/her real name, giving an address which may or may not bear any resemblance to any address at which they have ever actually resided, and is not required to be photographed and fingerprinted at the voting location, and then goes on his/her merry way, how the heck are they supposed to be found and prosecuted?

On the other hand, if someone who IS eligible has actually been prevented from voting, it’s very easy for that person to come forward and file a complaint. In most cases, they could also call police on the spot, and have police come over and witness the fact that they are not being permitted to vote, thus creating solid court-admissible evidence of the denial. But they don’t. Because there are no such would-be voters.


58 posted on 01/09/2008 9:41:56 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: My_Name_is_a_Number

After they recover from their nervous breakdowns, here are some potential schemes the lefties might employ:

1. OUTLAW I.D.: The Second Amendment is not an individual right to keep and bear arms or identification. It is a collective right only for the state.
2. LOWER VOTING AGE: Anchor newborns given the right to vote. (May settle the abortion debate).
3. OUTSOURCE ELECTIONS: All U.S. elections held in Russia with Vlad (the impoisoner) as final official certifier.
4. ABOLISH ELECTIONS: Outdated relic of the past has outlived its usefulness in today’s society as per our living, breathing Constitution.
and, if all else fails...
5. BAN THE CONSTITUTION: As unconstitutional.


59 posted on 01/09/2008 9:43:20 PM PST by My_Name_is_a_Number
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To: My_Name_is_a_Number

I have wondered why the opposite of “enfranchise” is not “disfranchise.” Seemed logical to me, although I realize that logic does not always carry the day in language usage. Consulting my Webster’s Collegiate, Fifth Edition, I find that “disenfranchise” is defined in a single word, to wit, “disfranchise.”

Go figure!!


60 posted on 01/09/2008 9:46:09 PM PST by Elsiejay
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