Posted on 01/09/2008 8:22:32 PM PST by My_Name_is_a_Number
Really discouraging some days. But if not us, who will fight this battle?
Democrats are the first to shout disenfranchisement when we try to secure the ballot box. This country is becoming a joke. I wonder how many people voted fraudently in NH, since they don’t require ID. You could have voted mutiple times and your campaign could have brought in thousands from out of state to vote.
Thomas?
Oh, I'm pretty sure that's exactly what the Clinton machine did. Meanwhile, the "pundits" continue to scratch their rear-ends wondering how the pre-election polls could have been so wrong. All you can do is shake your head at the stupidity....
Exactly. I’m also wondering how many were brought in to vote for McCain to tank Romney, even if McCain had nothing to do with it. They could have voted democrat and then walked over and voted republican....how stupid is this system.
sweetliberty used to host a continual vote fraud thread here on FR. I am wondering if she would be willing to do it again? What about it sweetliberty, you were great!
I've never read an Alito opinion, but I hear he's similar to Roberts and Roberts come off a more of a "common-sense" conservative than a textualist like Scalia or Thomas. I certainly prefer Scalia's approach, but even at it's worst I don't see Roberts' doing much damage (even he it does fail to accomplish as much for federalism as he could).
Among those cited by Democrats is Mary-Jo Criswell, a 71-year-old Indianapolis Democrat, who could not vote last November because she had no driver's license or valid passport.
She previously had used a private bank-issued card with her photo when voting. The former precinct committeewoman had difficulty rebuilding an identity trail, and still does not have a valid photo ID. Criswell said in an affidavit she felt intimidated by the burdensome bureaucracy she claims is needed to vote.
This whole issue is so infuriating because the Dems and media lapdogs like this one are so insulting to any thinking American. This 71-yo woman has in past elections used a private bank-issued card. Of course she needed ID to prove to the bank who she was before they issued to her their own ID. Here's a woman that was actually civic-minded enough to be involved in the political process as a committeewoman claiming that she was "intimidated" by the very bureaucracy she played a part in making. What is so intimidating? Why do you not have a state-issued ID in the first place? Whta was the difficulty in "rebuilding an identity"? yada, yada.
If the Dems are arguing that the process is too "intimidating" then doesn't that refute their every bureaucratic impulses in the first place? For Democrats to argue that the very act (voting) that puts in place politicians that put in place the very regulations/policies that are supposed roadblocks to voting is the very definition of hypocrisy.
What is always inconvenient to the Dems is any "disenfranchisement" of voters due to a lack of ID is miniscule compared to the unquestionable disenfranchisement of voters with ID by those people that cannot legally vote either due to age, location, or illegal status.
LOL. This woman could be a precinct committeewoman (organizing Democratic voters), and she could file an affidavit with the Supreme Court, but she couldn’t get a photo ID?
And yet she wants to have a say in how my tax dollars are spent?
State laws on voter identification vary widely, with Indiana's and Georgia's considered the most restrictive. Nearly all states require a photo identification when people first register to vote.
So the voter is required to prove intially that they are who they claim to be and thus legal to vote. Are the Dems going to claim even that is too difficult?
The bottomline is the ID is needed to prove, just like a ticket to a professional sports game, that you have the right to access. As of now any state that doesn't require an ID each time they vote is unquestionably allowing illegal votes to be cast. All one needs to do is to know a person (or many more) that you know intially registered but are not voting and show up and "do them a favor" and vote for them proxy. For college students it would be a crapshoot. Be aggressive in registering all your friends to vote (or let motor voter do it for you), inquire non-chalantly whether they are going to vote and if not, go in their stead. Get info on senior citizens that are infirmed and vote for them. Etc, etc, etc.
Ultimately, if this lax standard continues and expands, Pubbies are going to give-up their standard of fair play and start doing some free voting for lazy Dems.
Don’t watch. Let ‘em do it.
The provisional ballot eliminated that legal avenue for the most part. What's funny is when somebody was not included on a voters list, 80% of the time after they vote provisional it is shown that they were not eligible to vote due to address change, legal status, criminal record, age and so on. That's what happened in Ohio when they had all those provisional ballots but Kerry conceded because not only did he need a major swing of votes for him to make up the statistical gap but they wrere to be from a a group of ballots where a vast majority wouldn't be allowed in anyways.
” Strong voter ID laws will be the end of the modern Democrat Party.”
You really think there’s that much fraud occuring due to this?
What in particular makes you think that?
YES!!!
Every election cycle we hear about the Dems’ “formidable turnout effort”. They repeatedly call or knock on the door of every potential voter.
They are able to determine if someone isn’t registered, then get them enrolled if necessary. They help them get absentee ballots. They know if someone needs a RIDE to the polls. They know if CHILD CARE is needed...or PLOWING the driveway. They know your church, union, and probably your bowling league.
Sooooo. Mightn’t they add one teeny little question in all this outreach prior to the election:
“Do you have a valid drivers license?”.
First, it would help them identify the real extent of the problem. Either the problem doesn’t exist or they don’t really want to quantify it. Second, if they can send someone to drive you to vote, couldn’t they just as easily drive you to the DMV?
It’s obvious they don’t really want to solve the problem.
Republicans would be wise to add this question to their scripts when contacting voters. It’s probably not widely needed, but it would help underscore that the Dems want the issue, not the solution.
PS: I found this troubling:
“NEARLY all states require a photo identification when people first REGISTER to vote.”
“Nearly”?! Pray tell, where can you REGISTER to vote without a photo ID?
Virtually every country in the world requires photo ID, fingerprints, etc. Granted, dictators find other ways of manipulating the vote, but that’s not the problem we face here in the US. Just getting reliable identification for voters would probably cut out most of the our fraud problems.
Most of these people manage to get drivers licenses, welfare ID cards and a host of other forms of ID that are required of them without complaint. So what’s the big deal about photo ID for voting? Well, I know that the big deal is that the Dems couldn’t cheat then, but I think that’s a little blatant to use as a defense in the Supreme Court!
She has a Florida drivers license. She also is registered to vote in Florida. She claims homestead credits in both Florida and Indiana. (A little tax fraud going on here?)
The Mo Supremes (packed with Dems) scuttled our similar law a couple years back. Same type of provisional ballots/affidavits for voters without valid ID. We also funded free non-drivers license ID cards for those who couldnt’ afford it. IDIOT LIBERALS!
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