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1 posted on 01/10/2008 6:37:10 PM PST by Eyes Unclouded
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To: SubGeniusX

I hear your running the Lib ping list this month...


2 posted on 01/10/2008 6:39:01 PM PST by Eyes Unclouded (We won't ever free our guns but be sure we'll let them triggers go....)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

Offer them your passport.


3 posted on 01/10/2008 6:46:16 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: Eyes Unclouded

Farewell to anonymous anything. Between the scanning of your credit card, gas discount card, grocery discount card, online cookies, passport … your autonomy has been gone for a long time.


4 posted on 01/10/2008 6:49:30 PM PST by doc1019 (Rabbit and the Hare … Fred ‘08)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

Just give them your voter registration card.


5 posted on 01/10/2008 6:49:55 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Checkmate Cruiser")
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To: Eyes Unclouded

Hmmm thoughts. I think the author is a total dick and an idiot to boot. This why even though some few libertarian ideas sound ok, that libertarians themselves are best shunned lest you wind up being the unfortunate guest of one when he decides to prove what weird jerk he can be in a restaurant.


6 posted on 01/10/2008 6:50:10 PM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Eyes Unclouded
Those of us who are fortunate enough to have a youthful appearance are forever burdened....

I have carried that burden for over 50 years. It's tuff. :)

7 posted on 01/10/2008 6:54:28 PM PST by outofstyle (My Ride's Here)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

My main thought on I.D. checks at stores is a simple one. I am 55 and when buying smokes or booze they ask for I.D. I asked one clerk if they ever felt like a complete and total tool for enforcing the company policy when only a total idiot would ever think that I was under 21. I think that most of them do indeed feel this way.


11 posted on 01/10/2008 7:09:48 PM PST by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

Thoughts?

Pansy?


14 posted on 01/10/2008 7:19:01 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

I can’t buy a copy of Halo or Mass Effect, go see an R-rated movie, or even walk aorund in the local mall after 4 PM without showing someone my ‘drivers’ license’ as proof of age. After a friend and I were seeing how much information we could get from a few seconds of looking at each others’ rivers licenses and I could remember her entire address, when someone asks for proof of my age adn the age limit is something like 17 or 18, I pull out my college ID instead (it only has my name, photo, and a student ID number on it) and nobody ever seems to care.


15 posted on 01/10/2008 7:19:26 PM PST by Hyzenthlay (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Eyes Unclouded
This story is too much of a story.

So, who got FIRED from their JOB?

18 posted on 01/10/2008 7:23:27 PM PST by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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I would have walked out of the door. This company is actually very stupid as a major privacy breach on personal data from that scanner would cost them far more than a single alcohol fine and likely even more than losing their alcohol license for a while if they had several incidents.


23 posted on 01/10/2008 7:45:46 PM PST by rb22982
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To: Eyes Unclouded
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This caused a rather explosive confrontation that prompted us to leave and relocate to a different restaurant. Was I right to disagree with this policy?
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When enough people say HELL NO, then they will stop. Undercover investigators don’t pay the rent. Customers who may object to being coerced into an open-ended invasion of their privacy have far more power than anyone does.

There also may be some issues in State law of fraud with respect to “uninformed consent”. At the very least, full disclosure of serving policy should have been made by a properly sized sign on every customer entrance. In many states such notice is required if the premises has video surveillance.

28 posted on 01/10/2008 7:51:58 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Eyes Unclouded

Are you nuts?


29 posted on 01/10/2008 7:52:30 PM PST by 386wt (Be free and don't die!)
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To: Eyes Unclouded
Thoughts?

Whenever I buy beer, I ask if they want to see my ID. They don't.

That makes me want to buy more beer.

31 posted on 01/10/2008 7:54:34 PM PST by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Eyes Unclouded
Thoughts?

Resistance is futile.

36 posted on 01/10/2008 8:05:33 PM PST by poindexter
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ping


38 posted on 01/10/2008 8:08:10 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

Put your license in the see-through window of your wallet.

If you are asked for it, show it police-badge style.

You are in control of your license. If some bureaucratic weenie asks you to take it out, ask them why.

If you don’t like the answer. Leave, then tell the corporate HQ why. At very least the manager.

Time to stand up. The author is 100% right.


40 posted on 01/10/2008 8:12:53 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (So-called free trade advocates = "China Firsters")
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To: Eyes Unclouded; jan in Colorado
The answer was that it protects people under the age of 21 from drinking alcohol, which has benefits that are supposed to be obvious to me, and as a side effect it protects the restaurant from underage drinking sting operations. "Aha," I said, "So it does not protect me, it protects you."

This is the problem. The State has put the job of law enforcement onto the merchant.

I can understand why these merchants feel the need to do all they can to protect against a sting. It's Big Brother bullying another into doing its dirty work, and the honest citizen and the merchant are both the victims.

The last paragraph also nails it.

41 posted on 01/10/2008 8:16:10 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

If I’m not doing anything wrong, I’m not too worried about this. OTOH, if I were a Dimocrat, I guess I’d kick and scream.


44 posted on 01/10/2008 8:32:08 PM PST by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: Eyes Unclouded
Thoughts?

Sounds like a "two-fer" for the restaurant.
First, the management protects themselves from serving drinks to
underage patrons with fake IDs.
Second, the staff now has a fast-track to identity theft. Especially when
out-of-towners show up at one of the Houston's (used to live two blocks
from one in West LA). I can hear them trying to still their beating
hearts when they get a license that has the patron's birth date,
home address and social security number. (I routinely see such
licenses in my daily business; I've almost worn out my voice reminding
customers to get to the drivers license bureau and get a new license
without that Social Security Number prominently displayed.)
47 posted on 01/10/2008 8:35:14 PM PST by VOA
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