“The NRA has gone from being guardians of the 2nd Amendment to just another strong arm lobbying group.”
The NRA isn’t the greatest guardian IMO, and hasn’t been for decades. They been a strong lobbying group for decades though.
This story was very confusing. If I read it right the NRA is being bashed because they are supporting the individual right to have a weapon for protection at work. usually these cases involve a firearm in the car not in the desk. Allowing individuals to protect themselves is a good idea. The property owner has rights but do those trump the individuals?
Sounds like the NRA has it right in this case.
So, do all of your God given rights end at anothers property line? Certaily note, so why should the right to defend oneself?
If My employer prohibits me from defending myself (with a firearm) then does he legally assume liability if someone threatens my safety?
If yes, then fine, where are the progessional trained security personnel? If no, then why are my basic rights to life liberty and property being denied?
If I work at a business, is that really private property? Just what is the definition of “public” mean? If we go too far with this, is not then the right to anything defined in teh BORs subject to proprty rights? After all, there is very little “non-private” property.
God Bless
This has been tried in Florida a couple of times and has again pitted property rights advocates against gun rights advocates. The ultimate problem is that most time out of the house involves trips to work, school and church. What good does a concealed weapons permit do when the permittee is not allowed to leave his or her gun in the car while at these places?
I understand the property rights issue- it’s the property owner’s perogotive to bar guns from his property. However does that apply to a privately owned vehicle belonging to the concealed weapons permit holder? Can an employer arbitrarily search any vehicle parked in his parking lot? Can a store owner search any vehicle parked in the lot he owns? There are limits to land owners’ rights when it comes to privately owned vehicles.
Before I can comment, I need to know something about the bill. Does the bill apply to private employers whose parking lots are employee-only, or does it apply to businesses whose parking lots are for guests and customers?
I support the right of a private employer who has an employee-only lot to restrict what the employers bring into the lot — mostly because employers have the right to fire people for any reason anyway, so if their rules say “no guns”, they can enforce that rule by firing you.
I OPPOSE the GOVERNMENT restricting their employees from leaving guns in their cars at GOVERNMENT parking lots, because the GOVERNMENT is ME, and I oppose anti-gun rules. As the owner of the government, I want it to welcome lawful gun owners carrying their weapons to and from work, so that if they stop at the mall on the way home, and there is a shooter, they will have their guns ready to protect us.
I OPPOSE government restricting VISITOR lots from having guns in the cars. The government is for the people, and the people have a federal right to keep and bear arms that the federal government and state governments can NOT infringe upon. Preventing a person from parking a car with a gun in it in a government-owned parking lot is an infringement on that right to bear arms.
(NOTE: I am willing to allow the federal government to restrict people bringing guns INTO buildings, but maybe that too is an infringement. I haven’t thought much about it, and it’s not the issue here).
I also OPPOSE even private businesses that are open to customers and visitors being allowed to ban guns in the parking lots. If you make public accomodation, you need to allow gun owners a way to be bearing their arms. If you don’t let them carry them in the store, they need to be allowed to leave them in the parking lot.
In Virginia, we’ve fought this battle. In fact, we’ve had a bill which allows the public to carry guns in their cars INTO SCHOOL PARKING LOTS when they are picking up and dropping off children.
Remember, your right to keep and bear arms is severely restricted if you can’t carry OR stow those arms when you get places. If ONE place you need to stop at refuses carry AND stowage, you essentially can’t have your gun for the entire trip.
This is also a major argument to oppose the DC gun ban. Nobody on any business that includes a trip into DC is allowed to carry their weapon at all.