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Republican Presidential Candidates Debate | Full Transcript
Thestate.com ^ | January 10, 2008

Posted on 01/11/2008 9:05:06 AM PST by khnyny

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To: FreedomProtector
Yes, he cut taxes 94 times, and increased them 21 times, for a net increase of half a billion dollars.

This is what we call obscuring one's record with irrelevant facts.
21 posted on 01/11/2008 1:20:38 PM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1952083/posts?page=19#19


22 posted on 01/11/2008 1:22:02 PM PST by FreedomProtector
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To: FreedomProtector
Yes. Those are his positives. His negative is he increased the tax burden half a billion dollars. That's what I call a net negative.

For a FairTax supporter, he was pretty good at gaming the tax code to conceal his tax hikes, which is precisely one of the things the FairTax is designed to avoid.

Rather than confront the issue of his increase of the tax burden in Arkansas, he chooses to evade it by countering with trivialities such as his "94 tax cuts" nonsense. This gives me good reason, I think, to doubt the sincerity of his commitment to fiscal conservatism.
23 posted on 01/11/2008 1:28:20 PM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: FreedomProtector
I like his FairTax Proposal, but the Cato Institute ranked him as the 6th worst tax and spending Governor for 2006.

Only Kenny Guinn from Nevada spared him the distinction of being the worst Republican Governor on Fiscal Policy.

24 posted on 01/11/2008 1:45:52 PM PST by DrewsDad (PIERCE the EARMARKS)
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To: FreedomProtector

Actually, it looks like he tied Kenny for worst Republican Governor.


25 posted on 01/11/2008 1:49:14 PM PST by DrewsDad (PIERCE the EARMARKS)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

I’m sorry you can’t see that response as a rambling mess.

I’m a Fred man, I live in SC, I donated to his campaign, I plan on voting for him in the primary, but that questions hits on about 50 different things and in no coherent fashion.

The discussion I originally had with used2BDem was how well Fred did in the debate *except* for that first question. My wife and I grained after his first answer - we were hoping for more. We got it from then on.

But his first answer sucked. That’s my opinion and I’m sticking with it.


26 posted on 01/11/2008 2:03:35 PM PST by bolobaby
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To: bolobaby

grained=groaned


27 posted on 01/11/2008 2:04:07 PM PST by bolobaby
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To: bolobaby

>>But his first answer sucked. That’s my opinion and I’m sticking with it.<<

I think all his comments were on point. Maybe his response would have been better if he had organized his answer into paragraphs, but I didn’t think it was that bad.


28 posted on 01/11/2008 3:03:54 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast; Antoninus; highball

Laura Ingraham had some very complementary things to say about Mitt Romney this evening on O’Reilly. In case you’re not aware, Laura is an extremely pro-life Catholic with a Constitutional Law background (clerked for Judge Thomas). If Ingraham thought that there was any chance that Romney would not appoint conservative nominees to the Supreme Court, she would never endorse him.


29 posted on 01/11/2008 5:56:41 PM PST by khnyny (Clinton and Co. are the carnies of American politics.)
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To: DrewsDad
look at page 16 of the report.

0% increase in income tax
0% increase in corporate income tax

increase in cigarette tax, increase in sales tax.

Sales taxes are voluntary, income taxes are marxist.
I have much less issue with sales taxes especially at the state level. Huckabee did exactly the right thing in a state with a constitutional balanced budget amendment.

I have lived in the Pacific Northwest, the East, the Midwest and now the South. In the South there is a much lower percentage of state GDP spent on state budgets compared to the North. It is much more difficult to cut state budgets in the South without sacrificing basic functions such as roads, then it is in the North.

30 posted on 01/11/2008 6:01:48 PM PST by FreedomProtector
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To: khnyny

>>If Ingraham thought that there was any chance that Romney would not appoint conservative nominees to the Supreme Court, she would never endorse him.<<

She hasn’t endorsed anybody, but I think she does trust Romney.


31 posted on 01/11/2008 6:07:11 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Technically, you are correct, she has not formally endorsed anyone. But when asked whom she admired most among the candidates she chose Romney and explained why tonight on O’Reilly.


32 posted on 01/11/2008 6:25:14 PM PST by khnyny (Clinton and Co. are the carnies of American politics.)
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To: khnyny

If she supports Romney, I think less of her judgment, not my own. His record is such that endorsing him as a conservative is an act of free-floating faith in defiance of a great deal of evidence.


33 posted on 01/11/2008 6:26:22 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Pro-life.)
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>>But when asked whom she admired most among the candidates she chose Romney and explained why tonight on O’Reilly.<< She chose Romney after Hunter, but did say good things about him.
34 posted on 01/11/2008 6:27:56 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Yes, she likes Hunter, as do I, but Hunter was not even at the debate the other night. Laura mentioned Romney’s international business expertise and his managerial skills as assets in dealing with the emerging markets of China and India. Duncan Hunter is more of a protectionist and is not skilled in this area. This is not a diss of Hunter in any way, but a fact.


35 posted on 01/11/2008 6:39:36 PM PST by khnyny (Clinton and Co. are the carnies of American politics.)
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To: FreedomProtector
From page 18:

Mike Huckabee, Republican Legislature: Democratic
Final-Term Grade: F
Final Overall Grade: D
Thanks to a final term grade of F, Huckabee earns an overall grade of D for his entire governorship. Like many Republicans, his grades dropped the longer he stayed in office. In his first few years, he fought hard for a sweeping $70 million tax cut package that was the first broad-based tax cut in the state in more than 20 years. He even signed a bill to cut the state’s 6 percent capital gains tax—a significant progrowth accomplishment. But nine days after being reelected in 2002, he proposed a sales tax increase to cover a budget deficit caused partly by large spending increases that he proposed and approved, including an expansion in Medicare eligibility that Huckabee made a centerpiece of his 1997 agenda. He agreed to a 3 percent income tax “surcharge” and a 25-cent cigarette tax increase. In response to a court order to increase spending on education, Huckabee proposed another sales tax increase. Huckabee wants to run for the GOP presidential nomination next year. He’s already been hailed as a viable big-government conservative candidate by some. That seems about right: Huckabee’s leadership has left taxpayers in Arkansas much worse off.

It sounds like he started off well but caught the big government bug after reelection. So, how does hisdebate statement about tax cuts reconcile with this report?

I did something that had not been done in my state in 160 years. I cut taxes, with the legislature working with me, and we continued to do that 94 times.

Was it 20 years or 160?

36 posted on 01/11/2008 7:20:22 PM PST by DrewsDad (PIERCE the EARMARKS)
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