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How do you tell the difference...

Start by profiling, do they look like they're supposed to be here? Next, do they speak english? Ask me for my driver's license, I'm happy to show you that.

What I'm not happy about is a jack-booted government thug asking "your papers please."

Part of the Real ID plan being talked about is the fact that it must be carried at all times, I know my DL number and can recite it off to a cop if necessary even if I don't have it on me.

Another part is the proposed RFID chip imbedded in every card, unique to each citizen, that can be tracked by GPS. I don't need the government spying on where I choose to vacation, visit or shop.

No thanks, I don't want to feel like I'm the guilty one in my own country.

Real ID is mandatory: RFID is "Optional"
The RFID will only be mandatory in IDs that can also be used for passports and it will be optional "if RFID is not available." There's also a matter of functional range and whether or not they can actually fit power supplies on these things.

I'm trying to stay optimistic, but I have to say I'm dissapointed. Time to get the state legislature passing laws like they have in Texas.

House vote on passage of HR418, 10-Feb-2005

Yeas: 261
Nays: 161

All that matters now is that eight Republicans had the courage to vote against this gross violation of our civil rights.

They were Diaz-Balart, L. (FL); Diaz-Balart, M. (FL); Paul (TX); Pombo (CA); Ros-Lehtinen (FL); Smith (NJ); Wilson (NM); Young (AK).

(Some of the Dems who voted against may have also had our civil liberties in mind; however, I suspect most simply wanted to poke the Bush Administration in the eye.)

"What I'm not happy about is a jack-booted government thug asking "your papers please. Part of the Real ID plan being talked about is the fact that it must be carried at all times, I know my DL number and can recite it off to a cop if necessary even if I don't have it on me.
Another part is the proposed RFID chip imbedded in every card, unique to each citizen, that can be tracked by GPS. I don't need the government spying on where I choose to vacation, visit or shop.
No thanks, I don't want to feel like I'm the guilty one in my own country."

I fully agree, thank you!! This is why some of us have been talking til we're blue in the face about our government trampling on the constitution and destroying civil liberties, in the name of "security" - which is exactly what our founders warned us against. But apparently many people are still asleep.

I know that many here disagree, but I knew from the moment I heard the Orwellian sounding name "Homeland Security" that it was bad news. The same goes for the "Patriot Act" - another ironic name when you consider what it really is about.

For those who don't see any problem, these things happen incrementally, but if we sit by and do nothing, it will get worse. A lot worse. It doesn't matter if it's a Democrat or Republican who does it - trampling on civil liberties and privacy is unAmerican and wrong, and will take us down a road we do not want to be on.