every chance we get... 8^)
Posted on 01/12/2008 6:10:52 AM PST by MNJohnnie
That is just about the best news I’ve heard all day!
One, for the Iraqi state, and it’s people and, two, for conservatives.
I hope Mama P and Dingy are curled up in the fetus position, drooling. lol
De facto it meant, that practically all old nazis retrieved their civil liberties after a short court procedure. In effect the half-democracy that was deployed after 1949 in the western occupied zones was infiltrated with horrible nazis of all kinds. Even the German chancellor Adenauer accepted such criminals like Globke (who wrote the laws to “save” German blood from Jewish blood in 1935) as his closest aides. Another problem was that no one ever replaced the blood-soaked nazi judges. It is not funny if you find yourself 15 years later before a unchanged court of German judges if you want to rehabilitate your son who was sentenced and executed because of political reasons in 1944 by exactly the same a*sholes. A quite typical situation in Adenauer’s Germany. But... ...just to make one thing clear: The merits of Adenauer are something all Germans owe great respect for, since they were far more important than his failure in respect of those old nazis. Nevertheless it was a fatal error of Adenauer to emerge together with such persons like Globke.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Globke
Maybe you have heard about the notorious German judge Freisler (he sentenced i.e. the members of the “20 July 1944 plot” and the “white Rose” to death). Unlike his victims (some were hanged up on piano strings to asphyxiate them slowly) he died way too fast in early 1945 when he was hit by a American bomb. His widow received a generous pension for the "merits" of her husband until her death in 1987. Such in quite typical for the complete in-consequence against nazism in post-war western Germany.
So there is something to learn from this experience. Old Baathists are not suitable for all positions in a state. No matter if they are useful persons or not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mittelbau-Dora
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-2_rocket
A quotation of the “wikipedia” article:
On December 10, 1943, Albert Speer visited Dora.[5][6] Wernher von Braun visited the Nordhausen plant on January 25, 1944, and returned for a May 6, 1944,[6] meeting with Walter Dornberger and Rudolph where Albin Sawatzki discussed the need to enslave 1,800 more skilled French workers.[5]
After all 20.000 people died in the “V-Waffenproduktion” (production of weapons) of Nordhausen. Roundabout 7 prisioners died for every launched V2.
Well, von Braun won the race to the moon for you Americans. It was easy to level your own lack of suitable experts and technology by taking von Braun and his friends to the US. Nevertheless you should not forget that because of his boundless opportunism he accepted a blood toll of 20.000 death jews (and others) to push his scientific career.
As a technician I have to say that the Saturn V and the genius of von Braun are still fascinating. But no one should ever forget the trace of blood its development left behind.
Thanks for the comments, they are very interesting.
for reference...thanks.
every chance we get... 8^)
LOL!
You are correct, sir!
And, once again, they will look like the idiots they are.
I don't know if it was completely ineffective. After all, unemployment is now higher than it has been at any time since late 2001. So the minimum wage bump WAS effective in the one thing it always accomplishes: higher unemployment.
It didn't lynch him, it executed him after going through a lengthy trial. HUGE difference.
I have defended Bush throughout, but to say he played this right is inconsistent with the facts. Mistakes were made as Bush took advice from generals that were simply wrong. The surge under Petreas (sp?) is what got the locals committed to routing out Al Quaeda. Don't think for a minute that if Bush could have put a ribbon on Iraq 3 years ago, he would have strung it out til now.
It was a poor choice of words on my part and I didn’t mean to imply he strung it out on purpose. He was persistent in his goal to succeed and more less ignored the RATS criticisms and criticisms from his own party. Petraeus has been the deciding factor.
Perhaps the better word to use would have been "hanged". I wasn't attempting to cast any aspersion on the process, just point out that he died at the end of a rope.
Do you know of anywhere that I can find which benchmarks have been fully met?
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