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It could be the Iranians/North Koreas. In the 50s the US gave the Shaw the paper and ink and to produce their own currency. They have been counter fitting since the 80s.
Most likely it came from North Korea about 6 years ago, somebody used those funds to buy something and it went into circulation, something big and expensive.
These notes are extremely good and had a lot of banks worried some years ago, actually this is old news of a sort.
funny money pong
Wow...is this your first non-southern bashing thread?
Wasn’t it just this summer that some Russian diplomats tried to pass some counterfeits here in the US?
NK would not need to print bills. Iran could print them and use them to buy nukes from NK.
I sort of have the opinion that the US Govt. has been printing counterfeit money since 1934. Now they are PO’d because somebody is competing with them.
Do any Freepers remember the Russian security agent accompanying Putin to Kennebunkport who attempted to use a fake $100 at the liquor store?
Using information found in this CNN report , links are made between North Korea and Macau.
The Macau based Banco Delta Asia stands accused by the U.S. of laundering counterfeit $100 bills made in North Korea. The bills, called "Super-notes" are high quality counterfeits and are almost impossible to detect. At the heart of the scheme is the Zokwang Trading Company of Macau, it is staffed by North Koreans with diplomatic passports. Several of these Zokwang officials were arrested in the mid 1990s by Macau police on suspicion of passing the fake bills, some of which were traced to Banco Delta Asia. The accused North Koreans used their status as diplomats to leave Macau without ever going on trial. But the U.S. government is convinced the counterfeiting continued. Macau authorities took control of the bank and froze dozens of accounts linked to North Korea worth more than $20 million.
This is where things get hard to follow, but some familiar names pop up in the following report. Names link Ng Lap Seng, Ya-Lin (Charlie) Trie, Chen Kai-kit, and the Clintons.
Some copy and paste highlights:
Investigators began to look into Trie's bank records and tax returns, to discover that he recieved almost no income other than remittances from a little-known businessman in Macau called Ng Lap Seng. Born in China, Ng's diverse business interests included ownership of one of Macau's hotels in the territory, the Fortuna, whose night club featured "table dancing" by strippers, a massage parlour and a karaoke room with "attractive and attentive hoostesses from China, Korea, Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam, Indonesia and Burma together with exotic girls from Europe and Russia." Many of them as young as 12 years old.
Other shady players in the Donorgate saga soon emerged, all of them contacts of Trie’s in Macau. Chen Kai-kit, who also used the name Chio Ho-cheung, was a prominent Macau politician, who owed his 1996 election victory to the 14K Triad, whose goons intimidated voters or bought their votes for US$195 each.35Obviously, Chen was no ordinary businessman. He was actually not a native of Macau, but a Hainanese born in Thailand. But his influence in Macau was based not only on his political muscle in the Legislative Assembly; he was also president of the local association of people of Hainanese descent — and the proud owner of a local “no hands” restaurant, where waitresses feed the customers to enable them to use their own hands to explore the bodies of the young ladies while gulping down the Chinese delicacies which are put in their mouths. His wife, Elsie Chan, had in 1986 been a runner-up winner of the Miss Peace prize of the Miss Asia beauty contest. She later made a mark in the local television and film industry by introducing more full-bodied women on the screen. In married life, she continued supplying Macau’s various “entertainment” centres with women from her husband’s native Thailand. Chen, Elsie and Trie sat at the head-table with Clinton at a fund-raising dinner at Washington’s Sheraton Hotel on 13 May 1996.
Ng and Chen may not have had any personal interest in seeing Clinton re-elected, but in exchange for acting as conduits for money from the mainland they would get unofficial protection from the Chinese military for their own shady businesses. But to agree to help infiltrate the White House was pushing it, even for people with high-level PLA contacts.
Ng was one of the most mysterious of the characters in the “Donorgate” saga. He was not born in Macau but in China, and arrived in the territory in 1979 with a few belongings and the equivalent of US$12 in his pocket. He began his business career selling bales of cheap cloth to the local garment industry, and later became one of the most influential businessmen in the territory. But after all the damaging revelations that came out of the “Donorgate” affair, the enigmatic Ng disappeared from sight in Macau.
Chen Kai-kit, the Triad-connected legislator who had dined with the Clintons, published an autobiography in which boasted that many international figures had paid him tribute, including the American president, who presented him with “a signed photograph,” which he hung on the wall of the office of his “import-export” company, called Ang Du, in the Bank of China building in downtown Macau. Such displays may have benefitted Chen in his attempts to build up a network of business associates in the territory, and perhaps also in China. But there was one man on whom it was not necessary to make any special impression: Wong Sing-wa. They were already long-timefriends and close partners in the management of a VIP room in Macau’s Mandarin Hotel. Wong, the head of the Talented Dragon investment firm, was in 1990 appointed Pyongyang’s honourary consul in Macau, and the travel arm of his company was authorised to issue visas for North Korea. As such, he worked closely with Zokwang Trading, North Korea’s main commercial arm in Macau. In early 1998, a Lisbon-based weekly newspaper, the Independent, protested Wong’s presence in a delegation from Macau that was being received by the Portuguese president. The paper cited a Macau official as saying that Wong had “no criminal record, but we have registered information that links him to organised crime and gambling in Macau.” Wong was also linked to the inner circle of people who had tried to buy their way into the corridors of power in Washington. In 1995, he posed for a photograph outside the White House with Stanley Ho, another local business contact, and two sisters: Anna Chennault and Loretta Fung.
Chen Kai-kit also resurfaced soon after Donorgate. He landed in the middle of another controversy in early 1998, when it was reported that Ukraine would sell an unfinished aircraft carrier to a “leisure company” in the then still Portuguese territory. Ukraine had inherited the aircraft carrier after the break-up of the Soviet Union, and badly needed hard currency. The registered objective of the Macau company, Agencía Turistica e Diversões Chong Lot Limitada — which in English means “Tourism and Amusement Agency” — was to run “activities in the hotel and similar areas, tourism and amusement.” But why would such a company need an aircraft carrier? And where would this obscure company get US$20 million, which was the price that Ukraine wanted for the 67,000-tonne vessel?
More links between North Korea, Macau and Zokwang Trading Company go back as far as 1994. http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/HA18Dg01.html 1994? That's Clinton era. Was Clinton's 1996 re-election funded by money he knew wasn't even real?
The Zokwang Trading Co was considered Pyongyang's de facto consulate in Macau, and the relationship between Zokwang and Banco Delta Asia is no secret. As far back as 1994 the bank found thousands of bogus US$100 bills allegedly deposited by a North Korean employee. The director of the Zokwang Trading Co was held and questioned, but no charges were pressed.
Anybody who actually wants to shut down the biggest counterfeiting operation of all time—it’s called the Federal Reserve.
It has been known for a long time that one of North Korea’s biggest industries is the manufacture and export of US$100 bills. Vietcom Bank in Viet Nam advertisse that it will not accept US$100 bills. They circulate easily on the street without any discount, though.
It has been known for a long time that one of North Korea’s biggest industries is the manufacture and export of US$100 bills. Vietcom Bank in Viet Nam advertises that it will not accept US$100 bills. They circulate easily on the street without any discount, though.
You're kidding right. The govt cant even find it's own ass in it's hands. This would amount to the US govt financing the terrorists aimed at killing us.
Anybody else remember seeing the photos from (I believe) Beirut, Lebanon, in the aftermath of an explosion, and there were sheets of US currency blowing around the ground?
Mark
Please send me some samples of this alleged counterfeit money so I can run some tests. I’ll need about 1,000 samples to collect enough data to achieve reliable results. Please send the bills to:
“Mr. Smith”
P.O. Box 1000
Lagos, Nigeria
As soon as the results of these tests are done, I will send you an authentic copy.
Dan Rather, caught with a large suitcase full of the supernotes said they were fake but accurate.
A Georger is usually a member of Wheres George .
We enter, mark and spend bills and hope when someone finds one of them that they will go to the site and enter the bill.
I have only been doing it since April but I have 55 hits on 48 bills out of the 600+ I have entered. Most are from my state but I have 12 others, which isn't bad considering I spend most of them here in my town of less than 5000.
How better to track terrorist finances than to provide them with seemingly real bank notes which actually have minute imperfections in them?
By serial number?