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SurveyUSA NY/GOP primary poll: Rudy 32%, McCain 29%, Huck 12% (Rudy in danger of losing NEW YORK!)
Survey USA ^ | 1-11-08 | Survey USA Staff

Posted on 01/12/2008 9:06:52 AM PST by TitansAFC

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To: Man50D

It’s not just the media driven polls that have Hunter in last place. He also placed last in both Iowa and New Hampshire.


61 posted on 01/12/2008 2:53:27 PM PST by End Times Crusader (John McCain 2008 - Leadership for America)
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To: LS
>> Me too. These people gleefully singing Rudy’s demise will be screaming bloody murder when the CFR open-borders McCain is the nominee. At least Rudy has gone to EVERY conservative gathering and tried to win them over. McCain has given every conservative gathering the finger. <<

I'm no McCain fan, but the fact is McCain has a lifetime American Conservative Union of 83% which makes him significantly more conservative than RINO Rudy.

If the choice is between pro-CFR open-borders Rudy and pro-CFR open-borders McCain, I'll take the one that's at least mildly pro-life and pro-gun, rather the one who shows up at NARAL dinners and attends "Americans for Handgu Control" rallies.

Of course the much vilified Mike Huckabee is better than either of those bozos, but it would take a miracle for him to win NY.

62 posted on 01/12/2008 2:58:20 PM PST by BillyBoy (Fred Thompson isn't the second coming of Ronald Reagan, he's the second coming of Stephen Douglas!)
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To: LiveFree99
the corruption stories that came out in December about his special treatment of his gal pal

Courtesy of Bloomberg, who intends to flood the airwaves with his own image as fiscal savior. Fiscal savior plus nanny-in-chief: how is that going to play?

63 posted on 01/12/2008 3:10:05 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Fred

Where did you get this from?


64 posted on 01/12/2008 3:11:13 PM PST by firebrand
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To: BillyBoy
Well, the Rudy-Apologists had been proudly boasting that Rudy would put "NEW YORK IN PLAY"!!!

Well, they were right,,,,

it looks like he most certainly HAS!!....lol

65 posted on 01/12/2008 3:17:15 PM PST by stockstrader (We need a conservative who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
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To: TitansAFC

“better than Rudy Giuliani.”

Not a very inspiring campaign slogan!
Tancredo is out of the race.
Hunter is nowhere, unfortunately.
That leaves Fred as the last best hope.

And the fools are stampeding for Huckster at the moment.
I fear for this ntation.


66 posted on 01/12/2008 3:29:36 PM PST by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: LiveFree99

I don’t think McCain went to the NRA in the first place. I sure know he didn’t go to C-PAC (Rudy did). McCain gave C-PAC the finger.


67 posted on 01/12/2008 3:32:18 PM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: CitizenUSA

That’s been my position all along. No, I don’t agree with perhaps 60% of Rudy’s positions. But I do think when he tells you where he stands on something, he means it. McCain will do anything to get elected-—except make peace with conservatives.


68 posted on 01/12/2008 3:33:22 PM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: calcowgirl

Perhaps. Since NONE of the guys have the creds I want, at that point I’m willing to listen to a few platitudes. At least he seems to care enough to come and address conservative gatherings. McCain won’t do that. Huck does, but lies.


69 posted on 01/12/2008 3:34:36 PM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: BillyBoy
Lotsa problems with that "lifetime ACU" rating. It's recisely that: lifetime. I voted for McCain when he first ran for congress back in AZ, and voted for him his first senate run back then. He was a completely different guy. TOTALLY. If you look at his ACU rating for the last 4-5 years, I bet he's below many Dems.

On the other hand, if you get a guy in who---despite his personal preferences---is beholden in large part to the conservative base and who has courted them extensively---then it's logical to think he would govern far more conservatively than McCain.

70 posted on 01/12/2008 3:39:16 PM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: LS
That’s been my position all along. No, I don’t agree with perhaps 60% of Rudy’s positions. But I do think when he tells you where he stands on something, he means it. McCain will do anything to get elected-—except make peace with conservatives.

McCain has promised not to run for reelection, so his presidency will be lame duck from the very beginning. If you (not you personally) think that he stiffs conservatives now, just wait until he doesn't need our votes anymore.

71 posted on 01/12/2008 4:53:25 PM PST by A Longer Name
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To: End Times Crusader
It’s not just the media driven polls that have Hunter in last place. He also placed last in both Iowa and New Hampshire.

You need to review some facts. New Hampshire had only 12 delegates. Hunter placed third in Wyoming. A candidate needs 1,191 delegates to win the nomination and some how you reach the conclusion it's all over for Hunter? It's not over by a long shot for any candidate with respect to delegates.

By your line of reasoning, based on delegates alone then Giuliani is out of the race and this thread should be telling him to drop out more than comments about Hunter.
72 posted on 01/12/2008 5:31:30 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: TitansAFC
(Rudy in danger of losing NEW YORK!)

Anyone who's thinking of voting for a 'Rat or a RINO should take a really good look at my state of NY. We're probably gonna lose a couple of House seats the next time around. Upstate's bleeding people and jobs.

Question for the nation: Do you really want what 'Rats and RINOs can do for you...?

73 posted on 01/12/2008 5:34:40 PM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Man50D

Please show me how Hunter could come anywhere close to winning the nomination. Is there even one state in which he is obtaining double digits?


74 posted on 01/12/2008 5:36:15 PM PST by End Times Crusader (The Comeback Candidate: John McCain - Leadership for America)
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To: mewzilla
Anyone who's thinking of voting for a 'Rat or a RINO should take a really good look at my state of NY.

Californians feel your pain. ;-)

75 posted on 01/12/2008 5:49:48 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: End Times Crusader
Please show me how Hunter could come anywhere close to winning the nomination. Is there even one state in which he is obtaining double digits?

Please tell me why you so easily believe the biased socialist media polls and reporting? Since you're have apparently drunk the Socialist Kool aid for polls then show me how Giuliani has a shot when he has less delegates than Hunter or how Hunter has less of a shot than Thompson when the latter has is polling in the single digits in Michigan, Nevada, South Carolina and Florida?
76 posted on 01/12/2008 5:57:39 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: Norman Bates

We’ll have five guys tied for first come convention
time. I’ve calculated it. People aren’t adding correctly.
There is no frontrunner (technically it’s Romney right
now despite the media saying it’s McCain and Huck) and
all the future primaries break all kinds of different ways.
Fred is surging because he’s waking up and so is the electorate, but he started WAY too late.


77 posted on 01/12/2008 6:07:50 PM PST by Vinomori
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To: TitansAFC

I’m one NYer who won’t vote for Rudy in the NY primaries. In fact, I wouldn’t even vote for him in the General Election IF he ever became the nominee (which I doubt). I would vote 3rd party, or write in a candidate before voting for Rudy.


78 posted on 01/12/2008 6:24:42 PM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: TitansAFC
(overtly changing states Rudy911 was way ahead in to "winner take all" for delegates)

There's no reason for that kind of stuff in the primaries. I'm not sure if they did this in NY (if they did I didn't hear about it, but it wouldn't surprise me) but this isn't a general election and the outnumbered rural folk in blue states deserve some voice in choosing the President.

79 posted on 01/12/2008 6:37:21 PM PST by jmyrlefuller
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To: mewzilla
Anyone who's thinking of voting for a 'Rat or a RINO should take a really good look at my state of NY. We're probably gonna lose a couple of House seats the next time around. Upstate's bleeding people and jobs.

Quoted and repeated for truth. I have compared Mike Huckabee to a Baptist version of Eliot Spitzer and I'm not kidding.

80 posted on 01/12/2008 6:39:55 PM PST by jmyrlefuller
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