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SurveyUSA NY/GOP primary poll: Rudy 32%, McCain 29%, Huck 12% (Rudy in danger of losing NEW YORK!)
Survey USA ^ | 1-11-08 | Survey USA Staff

Posted on 01/12/2008 9:06:52 AM PST by TitansAFC

Republican Primary in New York: McCain Fights to Unravel Giuliani "Big State" Strategy -- In a Republican Primary today in Rudolph Giuliani's home state of New York, 01/11/08, 25 days to the 02/05/08 vote, Giuliani is in a tight fight with John McCain, according to a SurveyUSA poll conducted for 7 New York state media outlets. Among all Republican Primary voters, it's Giuliani 32%, McCain 29%, within the survey's 4.6% margin of sampling error. Mike Huckabee is 3rd at 12%, Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson and Ron Paul are further back. Giuliani leads by 11 points in New York City and leads by 5 points in the NYC suburbs. McCain leads by 4 points Upstate. Giuliani leads by 17 points among voters voters age 49 and younger. McCain leads by 12 among voters age 50+. McCain leads by 9 among Moderates. Giuliani leads by 6 among Conservatives. Huckabee gets 18% among Conservatives, 18% among Pro-Life voters. Republicans who think the Economy is the most important issue back McCain 33% to 28%. Those who say Terrorism is most important back Giuliani 40% to 26%.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008polls; elections; giuliani; giulianitruthfile; mccain; newyork; rudy
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Even though many folks don't like McCain any better than Rudy911, I think it would be irony of the highest order if, after his team fixed the Primary rules in five states to favor Rudy911 (overtly changing states Rudy911 was way ahead in to "winner take all" for delegates), Rudy lost half or more of those states rigged to give him extra delegates.

I would love to see him wind-up getting ZERO delegates from some of these states after trying to fix them so that he's get all of the delegates! LOL

I truly hope McCain wins NY. LOL

1 posted on 01/12/2008 9:06:54 AM PST by TitansAFC
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To: TitansAFC
(Rudy in danger of losing NEW YORK!)

Works for me.

2 posted on 01/12/2008 9:08:16 AM PST by Allegra (AACCK! Back in Iraq...how'd that happen so fast??)
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To: FreeInWV; 383rr; abishai; Afronaut; airborne; Alberta's Child; Alice in Wonderland; Antonious; ...
The “Stop Rudy” ping list!

E-mail/ping me if you want on/off the list! SPREAD THE WORD!!!

Rudy has fallen behind in a couple of states he tried to rig for himself. Now McCain is closing in on him in New York!!

The cheater might wind-up having hurt his own chances!!! LOL

3 posted on 01/12/2008 9:08:37 AM PST by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: TitansAFC
I’d take the Mayor of the Democrat loving, Republican hating McCain anyday.

No contest.

4 posted on 01/12/2008 9:09:10 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: roses of sharon

Me too. These people gleefully singing Rudy’s demise will be screaming bloody murder when the CFR open-borders McCain is the nominee. At least Rudy has gone to EVERY conservative gathering and tried to win them over. McCain has given every conservative gathering the finger.


5 posted on 01/12/2008 9:12:02 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: TitansAFC
I do believe that the win - die state for him is Florida.

He has spent a lot of money here and has been heavily favored.

Actually, Florida is now more populated than NY, but that won’t change the national electoral delegate count (27) until after the census.

If Rudy does not win Florida on January 29th, NY may well abandon him as a lost cause, but it will be interesting to watch either way.

6 posted on 01/12/2008 9:13:15 AM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: TitansAFC

**Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson and Ron Paul are further back.**

Romney will move further back.

Thompson will move further up.

Ron Paul needs to say “Good-bye” and quit.


7 posted on 01/12/2008 9:13:58 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: TitansAFC
I truly hope McCain wins NY. LOL

Rudy nauseates me, but I don't know if I agree with this. New York has a ton of delegates. If McCain can pull off an upset there, he's going to be that much harder for Fred to beat. The ol' "be careful what you wish for" thing.

8 posted on 01/12/2008 9:14:01 AM PST by jmc813 (Don't screw this up, vote for Thompson.)
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To: TitansAFC

They both stink like foul rubbish. I hope they destroy each other and take Huck with them.

Nuff said.


9 posted on 01/12/2008 9:14:50 AM PST by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: roses of sharon
I’d take the Mayor of the Democrat loving, Republican hating McCain anyday.

Why not just jump on the Fred bandwagon? There's plenty of room, and the momentum is going our way currently.

10 posted on 01/12/2008 9:15:24 AM PST by jmc813 (Don't screw this up, vote for Thompson.)
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To: LS
Agreed. While I will cast my primary vote for Fred, I would never vote for McCain in the general.

On many of the hot button issues there is little difference between him and hillary, and McCain has repeatedly shown that he will tell us to F**k off.

11 posted on 01/12/2008 9:16:18 AM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: Salvation

Huck the hick out polls Fred the slick 2 to 1 in New York! It must be all the evangellicals. Duncan probably got one percent (He is very consistant).


12 posted on 01/12/2008 9:17:27 AM PST by Soliton (Sarcasm is an educational tool)
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To: roses of sharon
It’s not like McCain endorsed Cuomo...........or say, spent his entire elected tenure filing more lawsuits against conservative organizations and conservative legislation than the ACLU - Like OH, SAY, a certain ex-NY Mayor.

McCain is far, far from ideal, but Rudy makes McCain look like Reagan’s idol.

I honestly, from the bottom of my heart, think Reagan would accept McCain as a President and openly oppose Rudy Giuliani. He’d probably crack a witty yet jabby joke about Rudy needing more time back in the Attorney’s Office to learn what junk lawsuits are.

Rudy is a threat finally starting to die down. Thank GOD Almighty that this nightmare is starting to unravel.

13 posted on 01/12/2008 9:17:31 AM PST by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: LS

-—”McCain has given every conservative gathering the finger.”-—

well, that’s because Rudy had to apologize to every Conservative organization for suing them 100 times each in the past....


14 posted on 01/12/2008 9:18:25 AM PST by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: roses of sharon; TitansAFC
I’d take the Mayor of the Democrat loving, Republican hating McCain anyday. No contest.

Duncan Hunter is the only GOP candidate who has been consistently Conservative throughout his political career. The rest have changed their positions on issues to Conservatives positions simply to become the nominee. It is catching up to them because people are starting to see them for being frauds.
15 posted on 01/12/2008 9:24:21 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: LS
You should hear McCain campaigning here in Michigan, every talkshow he does, ads, etc, he is slamming the President, Republicans about the war, torture, etc, and slamming Conservatives about illegal immigration.

RG has never campaigned that way, or talked that way, and campaigned for prolife conservatives since 98, (in my state, that year), he would make a far better President than McCain.

I just would never know what McCain will do or say from one day to the next.

And he really loves the UnAmerican Democrat party and their media.

And the Mayor really hates them, lol.

So yep, no contest.

16 posted on 01/12/2008 9:24:50 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: TitansAFC

TitansAFC: “Rudy has fallen behind in a couple of states he tried to rig for himself. Now McCain is closing in on him in New York!!”

McPain beating Rudy? That’s like Obama beating Hillary. Either way, we lose.

For the REAL record on McLame:

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjUzOGY0ODA1YzBmNjFhOWE5NWU0OTY5NTZiOGNhOGQ=


17 posted on 01/12/2008 9:25:26 AM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: Man50D

I love Duncan, Man50D, but let’s face facts: his campaign is over.

I think our best hope with Duncan is a Veep nomination, thereby making him the instant front-runner for the GOP nod next time it’s available.

Right now, it’s something I am truly hoping for.


18 posted on 01/12/2008 9:27:51 AM PST by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: Man50D
Yes, I love Hunter, and I just dont get it, I thought the base cared so much about illegal immigration this year, but it is not over this time, AND he is young and can make another go of it.
19 posted on 01/12/2008 9:31:55 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: LS

Yes, it was just so great when Rudy interrupted his speech to the NRA to take a phone call from his wife.


20 posted on 01/12/2008 9:32:24 AM PST by LiveFree99
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To: TitansAFC

I think what gut shot Rudy was the corruption stories that came out in December about his special treatment of his gal pal. Seemed to take the wind out of his sails, and it looks like he’s not coming back.


21 posted on 01/12/2008 9:34:09 AM PST by LiveFree99
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To: bill1952
On many of the hot button issues there is little difference between him and hillary, and McCain has repeatedly shown that he will tell us to F**k off.

Which is why I would NEVER vote for McPain. I would at least CONSIDER voting for the other rinos matched up against shrillery. But if it's McPain I'm defintely voting 3rd party.

22 posted on 01/12/2008 9:35:18 AM PST by rhinohunter (Thompson/Steele '08)
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To: LS

Well, they did get their Saint.

And his name is Huck who is RUNNING on a liberal/populist campaign, and winning.

So ironic, and laughable if it were not so serious.


23 posted on 01/12/2008 9:36:21 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: TitansAFC

If the republicans don’t have two conservatives for President and Vice President on the ticket this year, I will be forced to write in Amos N’ Andy as my choice.


24 posted on 01/12/2008 9:36:27 AM PST by gitmogrunt (I decided to lighten up and just not vote for a Liberal Republican again. Bush was the last straw.)
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To: CitizenUSA

Look, John McCain is NOT my first choice.

But I will take ANYONE - ANYONE - over the man who will instantly revert to form and work to destroy most of the issues and causes I believe in the moment he gets the power to do so: Rudy Giuliani.

There have been few greater enemies to Pro-Lifers, Gun Owners, Traditional families supporters, et al, than Rudy Giuliani. Before he had his sights set on the most powerful seat in the world, he used to brag openly of those things.

We KNOW where McCain dissents - we know how to fight him. We will have to be on guard on a few issues, granted. But it’s better than fighting a battle on the 7,000,000 or so fronts we’d have to fight Rudy while being shouted down at every turn that “it’s a time of war, stop opposing the President! Do you want the terrorists to win?!?!?” - not to mention the 100% certain fact that he’d appoint Pro-Roe, yet generally Republican, judges (he probably already knows them by name). Make no mistake - NARAL’s “Champion of Choice” will NOT let history measure him as the President who overturned Roe v. Wade. John McCain WANTS Roe overturned - both by personal belief, and because he’s part of the GOP guard who want it overturned just so they don’t have to deal with Abortion as a Federal issue anymore.

McCain is far, far from ideal - but he’s UNIVERSES better than Rudy Giuliani.


25 posted on 01/12/2008 9:36:51 AM PST by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: TitansAFC
The RINO Party of NY continue to lose even in the face of the most scandalous democratic machine ever. Why? Because it doesn’t matter what Dems do...Stalin could be running things in Albany and it wouldn’t make any difference...as long as those taxpayer funded checks get sent out to unions, seniors, welfare royalty, “bad back” phonies, etc

The only question is why doesn’t Thompson or Huckabee have an office here in NY-anyone know?

26 posted on 01/12/2008 9:38:33 AM PST by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: LS

LS: “At least Rudy has gone to EVERY conservative gathering and tried to win them over.”

I’m no fan of Guiliani, but at least he’s honest about his socially liberal positions. To my knowledge, he’s not trying to remake himself into something he’s not. I don’t support him, but I respect him.

McLame, on the other hand, is a sellout who repeatedly sided with Democrats. He’s worse than Guiliani in that McPain is trying to deceive voters about issues like immigration. He’ll sell us out in a heartbeat if elected.

For the real record on the McPainiac:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjUzOGY0ODA1YzBmNjFhOWE5NWU0OTY5NTZiOGNhOGQ=


27 posted on 01/12/2008 9:39:01 AM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: Salvation

“Romney will move further back.

Thompson will move further up.

Ron Paul needs to say “Good-bye” and quit.”

B U M P


28 posted on 01/12/2008 9:41:23 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: eleni121
-—”The only question is why doesn’t Thompson or Huckabee have an office here in NY-anyone know?”-—

Because the Rudophiles changed the primary to “winner take all” in an effort to rig the system and try and impose Rudy on the whole GOP by giving him extra delegates.

So unless you have a serious chance of winning NY over the native son, there was little point in being there. Thompson and Huckabee would be wasting time and money - only McCain and Rudy should be there.

29 posted on 01/12/2008 9:41:38 AM PST by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: CitizenUSA

“McLame, on the other hand, is a sellout who repeatedly sided with Democrats. He’s worse than Guiliani in that McPain is trying to deceive voters about issues like immigration. He’ll sell us out in a heartbeat if elected.”

Bingo!


30 posted on 01/12/2008 9:43:01 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: CitizenUSA

I notice the two most DNC/MSM and liberal loving candidates, McCain and Hillary are leading in NYC.

Very telling.


31 posted on 01/12/2008 9:43:54 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: TitansAFC
Some good points there.

But

1)Immigration.
2)Taxes.
3)Torture and Gitmo.

Three strikes and out, and I’m not counting his snotty public remark that I would not pick lettuce for 50 bucks an hour here.

And I’m not saying that I will not reverse my opinion and vote anyway, but it would a take a real suspension of disbelief at this stage.
A virtual interposition of God, as it were.

32 posted on 01/12/2008 9:44:26 AM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: CitizenUSA
-—”I’m no fan of Guiliani, but at least he’s honest about his socially liberal positions. To my knowledge, he’s not trying to remake himself into something he’s not.”-—

HOGWASH!

Visit his website: he’s now a “strong supporter of Second Amendment Rights”

He’s suddenly “Okay” if Roe gets overturned (yeah, right).

He suddenly opposes CFR now - a position he has switched ON THIS VERY CAMPAIGN. Not kidding!

And the man who constantly sued to oppose Conservative legislation, sued to stop Welfare Reform, sued Gun Manufacturers, and so on and so forth - is now a judicial Conservative and a Federalist.

He’s been trying to remake himself this entire campaign - even switching position on a few issues on this VERY CAMPAIGN. He even switched positions on the gun lawsuit HE FILED.

If he were honest, he’d be talking about his plans to declare “Roe v. Wade Anniversary Day” and “Planned Parenthood Day” as President, just like he did in New York. And then he give us his new list of lawsuits against gun owners and manufacturers to “stop crime.”

33 posted on 01/12/2008 9:47:56 AM PST by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: TitansAFC

Yeah, look at the bright side:

If McCain somehow DID end up as President, the stress will turn him into a one-termer, if that.

Which makes the issue of who McInsane would pick as his VP MOST critical.


34 posted on 01/12/2008 9:52:07 AM PST by mkjessup (Where's Duncan Hunter you ask? BLACKLISTED for telling the truth on the "KENNEDY WING of the GOP!")
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To: TitansAFC

TitansAFC: “McCain is far, far from ideal - but he’s UNIVERSES better than Rudy Giuliani.”

So what? Even if he’s better, and I don’t think he is, we have no reason to vote for either of them. Let’s cross that bridge when (if) we come to it.


35 posted on 01/12/2008 9:53:40 AM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: bill1952
-—”
1.)Immigration.
2)Taxes.
3)Torture and Gitmo
-—”

1.) Agreed. But he obviously knows it won’t pass - even Bush couldn’t get Amnesty passed and he fought tooth and nail. Besides, he’s still got a better record on it than Rudy.

2.) Taxes? Come on - he supports the cuts. And clearly he wanted spending cuts and tried to leverage for it - look at his OVERALL record on taxes: he’s solid. I mean seriously, there is no real, substantive evidence that John McCain is bad on taxes or spending.

3.) Yup, he’s dead wrong. Too personal for him.

Again, I’m not saying McCain deserves your support — I’m simply saying that McCain is better than Rudy, hands down. I’m not saying anything more than that.

36 posted on 01/12/2008 9:53:51 AM PST by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: CitizenUSA

-—”Let’s cross that bridge when (if) we come to it.”-—

Agreed.

But I will still work tirelessly to stop Rudy while I can.


37 posted on 01/12/2008 9:55:12 AM PST by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: rhinohunter
Which is why I would NEVER vote for McPain. I would at least CONSIDER voting for the other rinos matched up against shrillery. But if it's McPain I'm defintely voting 3rd party.

Why would anyone consider ever voting again for a rino or third party canidate after the '06 election? If you people haven't learned by now either to work to elect a conservative, or just not vote, and let the republican party know you will not vote if they do not promote a conservative canidate, then our party is lost this election.

Your way of thinking is why we have rino's in the first place. NO MORE RINO'S!

38 posted on 01/12/2008 9:58:08 AM PST by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: TitansAFC
>I’m simply saying that McCain is better than Rudy, hands down.

I see your points, but wasn’t McCain against the Bush tax cuts?
Now that you have mentioned it, I will look at this record further. - thanks.

I am fond of saying that I won’t vote for this or that person, but I have not yet been faced with the awful reality of hillary running for President.

Unless she dies, its coming. - and thank you for your post. - Bill

39 posted on 01/12/2008 10:00:32 AM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: TitansAFC
Rudy has fallen behind in a couple of states he tried to rig for himself. Now McCain is closing in on him in New York!! The cheater might wind-up having hurt his own chances!!! LOL

It's not surprising the Rudester might flop in NY---even blase new Yorkers were disgusted at the way Mayor Rooty conducted his personal life.

Plus New Yorkers said "no way" when Rooty tried to rig NY elections to keep himself in office after his term was up (after 9/11).

Giuliani's viability is tanking from the scandals attached to his name. Giuliani was hurt by scandals involving mobbed-up Bernard Kerik (Rooty's former bodyguard, driver, Police Commissioner and business partner---in that order).

Rudy's porking his mistress on the public dime and hiding the theft of public services in obscure city agencies, then lying about it to voters.

Unzipped Rudy is something else. Giuliani's messy personal life is a big turnoff to women voters. Rudy had no qualms causing the public humiliation of his second wife by dumping her at a news conference without even telling her.

He tried to dump his two young kids out in the streets---saying he was dividing the Mayoral mansion in two---to move in his mistress. It makes wives and moms around the country skeptical of putting him in the White House.

If he can't control his zipper, how can he control the country? One news poll found 50% of women overall - and 48% of GOP women - are less likely to vote for Giuliani because he dumped his second wife Donna Hanover at a 2000 press conference.

A lot of women say Giuliani's assigning seven taxpayer-funded bodyguards/drivers to his girlfriend while his wife was still NYC's First Lady was EVEN WORSE than Rudy's public humiliation of the mother of his children.

"Rotten" is a word that came up again and again when women refer to Rudy.

40 posted on 01/12/2008 10:06:16 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: roses of sharon

roses: “I notice the two most DNC/MSM and liberal loving candidates, McCain and Hillary are leading in NYC. Very telling.”

Yes, it is. That, in itself, is a very good reason to dislike McPain. Let’s put it this way. I don’t dislike NYC. They have the right to live as they see fit, and if they want to create a socialist hellhole, that’s their business. What I don’t like is the way they support candidates who won’t let me live as I see fit. They pick people, like Hillary, who won’t be satisfied until the entire country is a socialist hellhole.

As for McPain, there’s nothing in his past the makes me believe he’d fight the socialists. He’d be more likely to join them.


41 posted on 01/12/2008 10:06:19 AM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: bill1952
Hillary and Obama are members of the UnAmerican Democrat Party, it matters not which one is the nominee.

They will face Huck or McCain.

And both have VOWED in their campaigns, to work with the Dims. And both routine bash the President and Conservatives, in the here and now, to this day.

The rest of our candidates have vowed the opposite.

And instead the base chooses imagined scenarios of THOSE candidates secretly and really wanting to usher in cults and baby killing, stealing our guns, globalists conspiracies, and no fire in the belly?

And I thought it was the Dims who were irrational and Utopian.

No so, says the evidence to date.

42 posted on 01/12/2008 10:17:14 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: TitansAFC

“There have been few greater enemies to Pro-Lifers, Gun Owners, Traditional families supporters, et al, than Rudy Giuliani”

Romney is a close second. The sooner they are both gone the better.


43 posted on 01/12/2008 10:23:06 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: CitizenUSA
Yes, in 2004 he was flirting with Kerry, trying to get him elected, with McCain as his running mate.

McCain also fights with the President openly, with our enemies listening, about Rummy, Iraq, accusing us of torture, closing Gitmo so the world will love us, and on and on.

But he is best buds with Bill Cowen, Clinton’s DOD, and never says a bad thing about him, only Rumsfeld.

And McCain here in Michigan on radio, is vowed carbon taxes, and global warming nonsense.

Its sick.

Huck is not much different, he is push polling today here in Michigan, saying the other candidates want more babies killed, and they don’t “care about the American people”, touting Union endorsements.

I will trust RG over those two anyday.

44 posted on 01/12/2008 10:27:09 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: TitansAFC

TitansAFC: “But I will still work tirelessly to stop Rudy while I can.”

Sounds good to me. I don’t support Rudy and wouldn’t vote for him even if he’s the nominee.

RINOs are worse than Democrats. We all know what Democrats stand for and oppose them. RINOs, on the other hand, destroy us from within. It’s like the Episcopal Church. It was destroyed by heresy on the inside, not by outsiders. Why? Insiders have the ability to destroy an institution bit by bit, one compromise at a time.


45 posted on 01/12/2008 10:31:50 AM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: LS
At least Rudy has gone to EVERY conservative gathering and tried to win them over.

Win them over with what? That he really didn't run NYC into debt and appoint liberal judges? That many of those he appointed went to jail or are currently under indictment? That he really didn't run a sanctuary city? That he didn't use public funds to pay for his dalliances with his mistress? His record is what counts, not the platitudes and lies he spouts on the campaign trail.

46 posted on 01/12/2008 10:41:21 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: TitansAFC

No you don’t.

We need RUDY TO WIN NY! This is vital to a brokered convention. We need Rudy to grab 300-350 delegates.

This is horrible news.


47 posted on 01/12/2008 11:04:50 AM PST by Onerom99
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To: LS

Agreed LS - Rudy is a much better choice for prez than McCain.


48 posted on 01/12/2008 11:06:17 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: TitansAFC; Allegra

I’ve said for MONTHS he’ll lose NY, and I believe primary too...even if he won the nomination, he’d lose NY to the Hill and Bill show in November.


49 posted on 01/12/2008 11:06:42 AM PST by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney ("I'm a proven leader. That's what the Des Moines Register said.")
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To: TitansAFC; All
The NY Conservative Party is going to be endorsing FRED!!!
50 posted on 01/12/2008 11:19:41 AM PST by Fred (McCain..'HIS EGO IS WRITING CHECKS HIS BODY CAN'T CASH')
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