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To: CitizenUSA

Look, John McCain is NOT my first choice.

But I will take ANYONE - ANYONE - over the man who will instantly revert to form and work to destroy most of the issues and causes I believe in the moment he gets the power to do so: Rudy Giuliani.

There have been few greater enemies to Pro-Lifers, Gun Owners, Traditional families supporters, et al, than Rudy Giuliani. Before he had his sights set on the most powerful seat in the world, he used to brag openly of those things.

We KNOW where McCain dissents - we know how to fight him. We will have to be on guard on a few issues, granted. But it’s better than fighting a battle on the 7,000,000 or so fronts we’d have to fight Rudy while being shouted down at every turn that “it’s a time of war, stop opposing the President! Do you want the terrorists to win?!?!?” - not to mention the 100% certain fact that he’d appoint Pro-Roe, yet generally Republican, judges (he probably already knows them by name). Make no mistake - NARAL’s “Champion of Choice” will NOT let history measure him as the President who overturned Roe v. Wade. John McCain WANTS Roe overturned - both by personal belief, and because he’s part of the GOP guard who want it overturned just so they don’t have to deal with Abortion as a Federal issue anymore.

McCain is far, far from ideal - but he’s UNIVERSES better than Rudy Giuliani.


25 posted on 01/12/2008 9:36:51 AM PST by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: TitansAFC
Some good points there.

But

1)Immigration.
2)Taxes.
3)Torture and Gitmo.

Three strikes and out, and I’m not counting his snotty public remark that I would not pick lettuce for 50 bucks an hour here.

And I’m not saying that I will not reverse my opinion and vote anyway, but it would a take a real suspension of disbelief at this stage.
A virtual interposition of God, as it were.

32 posted on 01/12/2008 9:44:26 AM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: TitansAFC

Yeah, look at the bright side:

If McCain somehow DID end up as President, the stress will turn him into a one-termer, if that.

Which makes the issue of who McInsane would pick as his VP MOST critical.


34 posted on 01/12/2008 9:52:07 AM PST by mkjessup (Where's Duncan Hunter you ask? BLACKLISTED for telling the truth on the "KENNEDY WING of the GOP!")
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To: TitansAFC

TitansAFC: “McCain is far, far from ideal - but he’s UNIVERSES better than Rudy Giuliani.”

So what? Even if he’s better, and I don’t think he is, we have no reason to vote for either of them. Let’s cross that bridge when (if) we come to it.


35 posted on 01/12/2008 9:53:40 AM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: TitansAFC

“There have been few greater enemies to Pro-Lifers, Gun Owners, Traditional families supporters, et al, than Rudy Giuliani”

Romney is a close second. The sooner they are both gone the better.


43 posted on 01/12/2008 10:23:06 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: TitansAFC

“better than Rudy Giuliani.”

Not a very inspiring campaign slogan!
Tancredo is out of the race.
Hunter is nowhere, unfortunately.
That leaves Fred as the last best hope.

And the fools are stampeding for Huckster at the moment.
I fear for this ntation.


66 posted on 01/12/2008 3:29:36 PM PST by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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