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To: RussP
One more point here. I think it is safe to say that all fascists are socialists, but not all socialists are fascists. Communists, for example, are socialists but not fascists. Stalin made that very clear. But off hand I can’t think of any fascists that were not socialists. Socialism is really just the economic aspect of leftism. So that is really just saying that fascists are leftists. And that is what Goldberg is saying — correctly.
No. None of that is "safe to say". In fact it's amazingly ignorant. The fact that your muses are Goebbels and Stalin has a lot to do with it.
56 posted on 01/16/2008 9:27:04 AM PST by ketsu
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To: ketsu

“The fact that your muses are Goebbels and Stalin has a lot to do with it.”

Do you know who Goebbels was? He was one of the chief Nazi propagandists, and the clue bat I hit you with (to no apparent effect) was an example of the hard-core socialist campaign literature that got the Nazis *democratically elected*.

Of course the Nazis probably did not believe their own propaganda, nor did Stalin believe his own communist garbage. In both cases, the ideology was a trick to gain power. But we don’t say, therefore, that Stalin was not a communist, nor does if follow that Hitler was not a socialist.

As for Stalin being my “muse,” my point was that Stalin originated the whole notion that fascism is a “right wing” ideology. In declaring ideological war with rival leftists who were gaining momentum, he called them the opposite of communists. His stooges in the West then took the cue and proceeded to label the Nazis as “right wing” fascists. Most of those stooges had praised Nazi socialism prior to that point.

For you to fault me for quoting Stalin in that context is ridiculous. In fact, I’m starting to realize that I’m just falling for your schtick. No one could really as ignorant as you are pretending to be. You are obviously just trying to provoke me. I’ve fallen for it up to now, but I’ve wasted enough time.


58 posted on 01/16/2008 9:48:58 AM PST by RussP
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