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Giuliani Rattled, Cancels Remarks as Pro-lifers Disrupt Sunday Bus Tour Stop
Christian Newswire ^ | 1/13/08 | Christian Newswire

Posted on 01/13/2008 1:51:13 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: narses

> How would you stop abortion ????????????

The best way to stop abortion is for FreeRepublic to take all of the money that it has raised and send it to the Rudy Giuliani campaign. He will best defend the born — and the unborn.


201 posted on 01/13/2008 3:33:11 PM PST by KeithCu
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To: nicmarlo

Whew, that’s a relief!

Of course any one can state their opinions on the law.

But you are so wrong in your understanding of how constitutional law works that I was sincerely hoping that you weren’t a lawyer. That would be sad.


202 posted on 01/13/2008 3:33:17 PM PST by fightinJAG ("Tell the truth. The Pajama People are watching you.")
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To: Tennessee Nana

If you only knew.


203 posted on 01/13/2008 3:34:00 PM PST by fightinJAG ("Tell the truth. The Pajama People are watching you.")
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To: fightinJAG

As if your opinion, as an outed snake lawyer, matters to me.

Not.

I know and respect many lawyers. You are not one of those.


204 posted on 01/13/2008 3:34:36 PM PST by nicmarlo (I hereby declare my support for Duncan Hunter. 1/10/08; late to the party, but I have arrived!)
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To: nicmarlo
Peaceful protest does not limit one to being mute or speaking softly. Unless criminal behavior occurs, the Supreme Court has ruled that protests are covered under the Bill of Rights. Protesters may have to file a fee to gather in groups, but show me where SCOTUS has determined that gatherings cannot occur unless people are quiet.

thank you for pointing this out. I am reminded that in the British politiical tradition. or so it was until PC, smothered it, opponents were free to make loud noises and to interrupt others. Watch any debate in the House of Commons and one sees very "rude" behavior. Now the unstated rule is. however, is that there will; be exchanges: a mob cannot be allowed to shout down the speaker unless he has been given a chance but unable to respond effectively. Piling on IS allowed.

205 posted on 01/13/2008 3:35:12 PM PST by RobbyS
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To: nicmarlo
Peaceful protest does not limit one to being mute or speaking softly. Unless criminal behavior occurs, the Supreme Court has ruled that protests are covered under the Bill of Rights. Protesters may have to file a fee to gather in groups, but show me where SCOTUS has determined that gatherings cannot occur unless people are quiet.

thank you for pointing this out. I am reminded that in the British politiical tradition. or so it was until PC, smothered it, opponents were free to make loud noises and to interrupt others. Watch any debate in the House of Commons and one sees very "rude" behavior. Now the unstated rule is. however, is that there will; be exchanges: a mob cannot be allowed to shout down the speaker unless he has been given a chance but unable to respond effectively. Piling on IS allowed.

206 posted on 01/13/2008 3:35:13 PM PST by RobbyS
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To: Tennessee Nana

lol.

Hi Nana. Thanks for the laugh. : )


207 posted on 01/13/2008 3:35:43 PM PST by nicmarlo (I hereby declare my support for Duncan Hunter. 1/10/08; late to the party, but I have arrived!)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Do not presume you know anything about me or my background as a lawyer.

Do not call the good soldiers who work as clerks in the United States Army “peons.”

Take it back.


208 posted on 01/13/2008 3:37:01 PM PST by fightinJAG ("Tell the truth. The Pajama People are watching you.")
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To: dsc
This is a fight between good and evil. Evil does not deserve courtesy or consideration. Good does.

It is a moral good for pro-lifers to disrupt the rites of the baby killers. It is a moral evil for baby killers to...well, to do anything in the cause of baby killing.

Good and evil — not morally equivalent.

Bears repeating because truer words were never spoken on the subject.

209 posted on 01/13/2008 3:37:52 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: hoosierham

Put her in a dress and smear a little lip stick on him and you’d never notice the difference.


210 posted on 01/13/2008 3:38:02 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: nicmarlo

Clearly, one cannot interrupt to the point of “interrupting” the rally. That is why you see protesters hauled off.


211 posted on 01/13/2008 3:38:22 PM PST by fightinJAG ("Tell the truth. The Pajama People are watching you.")
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To: KeithCu
He will best defend the born — and the unborn.

Exactly how would he do that?"

I keep asking the 20%ers (aka the Rudy apologists) exactly what Guiliani would do different than President Bush (or any Republican for that matter—Paul doesn’t even count) in the WOT?

I have offered a few ideas.

Push for more gun control?

Sue gun manufacturers?

Expand sanctuary cities?

Encourage more illegal aliens by telling them that they are NOT really illegal?

Encourage even more illegal immigration by publicly affirming citizenship for kids of illegals?

Refuse to prosecute illegals until they commit A SECOND crime (since they are already breaking the law by just being here)?

Allow gays to openly serve in the military?

Continuing to tell muslims that Islam is a ‘great religion’ (like he did at the CNN debate)?

Locate emergency command centers to the most likely targets (like he did in NY)?

Make quality appointments to important positions like his recommendation to President Bush of Bernie Kerik to head Homeland Security?

It is OUTRAGEOUS to even think that we need a LIBERAL like Rudy to aggressively and successfully fight the WOT!

212 posted on 01/13/2008 3:38:27 PM PST by stockstrader (We need a conservative who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
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To: RobbyS

I dare say, SCOTUS has never issued any kind of decision that states: “legal protesters” SHALL behave in a “quiet and gentlemanly” way.


213 posted on 01/13/2008 3:38:52 PM PST by nicmarlo (I hereby declare my support for Duncan Hunter. 1/10/08; late to the party, but I have arrived!)
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To: fightinJAG

“By the way, I was referring to the teaching by St. Paul. He pointed out that lots of stuff is allowed, but that doesn’t mean it should be done.”

You are not thinking about the Paul of the Bible because he was no wimp...

Jesus used a whip to drive home his objections to the liberals of his day...


214 posted on 01/13/2008 3:39:12 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: nicmarlo

This was the standard set by Nana. So I asked her to hold her own views of productive protests to it.


215 posted on 01/13/2008 3:39:37 PM PST by fightinJAG ("Tell the truth. The Pajama People are watching you.")
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To: Yaelle; NYer

It’s crazy, I did a quick search and it looks like most of the places that offer free ultrasounds are local “crisis pregnancy” centers. There doesn’t seem to be a concerted national effort to raise money for such a thing (at least not that I could find, so it’s not a really good effort if that’s the case). I found an article from the NYT discussing it back in 2005 when it was indicated that Focus on the Family in conjunction with the SBC was donating ultrasound machines to Crisis Preg Centers. Additionally, there was a statistic put out (take with grain of salt) that 90% of the women who saw the ultrasound decided AGAINST abortion. I don’t see how that could not be the case

Poster NYer also referenced an article about this back in Feb of 2007, which is when I first heard about it. I don’t know how to link & do that sort of stuff, but perhaps NYer has more info.

I am a firm believer that THIS is how you go about changing people’s minds about abortion— I know it changed mine & my husband’s when we were expecting our first, I know it changed numerous friends of ours. And I assure you, tactics like those referenced in the article, most people see and just roll their eyes at the “crazies” and write them off as kooks. That doesn’t exactly save babies.

Also, FYI, your local church or synagogue may have a pregnancy center that they help out (ours does).


216 posted on 01/13/2008 3:40:01 PM PST by I_like_good_things_too (Check the "Yes" box next to survival)
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To: hoosierham

That is because its been eons since you have seen Mrs. Clinton in a dress! LOL

Remember, crusty black pantsuit, peeu green blouse.


217 posted on 01/13/2008 3:40:35 PM PST by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: barryg

It certainly will gain Hildy some votes. And some cash.


218 posted on 01/13/2008 3:40:36 PM PST by fightinJAG ("Tell the truth. The Pajama People are watching you.")
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To: nicmarlo

Under all the circumstances, thank you!


219 posted on 01/13/2008 3:41:07 PM PST by fightinJAG ("Tell the truth. The Pajama People are watching you.")
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To: KeithCu

I’d just as soon take out the abortionist garbage.

Next.


220 posted on 01/13/2008 3:41:07 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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