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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Why is it the general consensus here that all muslims deserve to be tarred with the terrorist or extremist brush? How many of you people actually know any muslims?


7 posted on 01/14/2008 4:01:43 AM PST by thundrey
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To: thundrey

I know plenty and not one has have ever disavowed 9/11 or the numerous acts of Muslim violence in the world since then.


8 posted on 01/14/2008 4:05:24 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (“We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!” --Duncan Hunter)
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To: thundrey
"...How many of you people actually know any muslims...?"

Having a "Neville Chamberlain Moment"? Photobucket I've met at least four English-speaking Muslims—including two Moderates: one was a beer-swilling Saudi cop. Another was a very gabby/friendly forensic lab technician from the UAE.

Two were creepy-scary—both Pakistani firearms technicians. The one with the long beard couldn't look me in the eye.

Unlike Neville, I put great trust in my senses.

11 posted on 01/14/2008 4:25:37 AM PST by Does so (...against all enemies, DOMESTIC and foreign...)
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12 posted on 01/14/2008 5:26:08 AM PST by Axlrose
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To: thundrey

I don’t know any muslims, fascists, or satanists, but I know what they represent: the willful destruction of MY culture & way of life & the freedoms I hold dear.

It is as simple as this for me:

The koran clearly allows & encourages muslims to cheat, lie, steal, murder, rape, & enslave people who refuse to submit to islam. Since I would NEVER submit to islam, which I believe is a concoction of satan, islam & muslims are my mortal & immortal enemies.

Say what you will, but these are MY beliefs, & I am as entitled to them as muslims are entitled to believe Jews & Christians are sons of apes & pigs.


13 posted on 01/14/2008 6:04:56 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: thundrey

Clearly, you don’t understand Islam... or maybe you do from the inside...?

The reason all are tarred with the terrorism tag is three-fold:

1) The basic tenet of Islam is to turn Dar Al-Harb (the world at war) into Dar al-Islam (the world which has submitted). Doesn’t matter if you are an extremist or a “moderate”, this is your goal. You can liken this to a military engagement... the smaller faction of your forces is actually the killing force. The rest are the support. Well, charity is one of the five pillars of the faith. Guess what? Only charity to muslim charities qualifies. These have been shown to overwhelmingly support terrorism. Therefore, “moderates” have the same goals and provide support to those who perpetrate terrorism.

2) There are few, if any, who denounce terrorism against “innocents”. The reason is because they don’t see innocents among the infidels. Again, we are part of the world at war until such time as we submit. Anything goes... including lies to advance your agenda. This is called “Taqqiyah”. Why should anyone accept the word of one for whom lying is religious requirement?

3) Experience. Look at Muslim advancement around the world and you will see the same model repeated. When they are weak, they are “peaceful”. When they gain strength, they exert their influence. More strength and they join the struggle violently. Lather rince repeat.

I have studied the middle east and Islam. I know many Muslims. I would wager you are either one of them practicing Taqqiyah here or you are an appeasing limp-wrist who throws inane challenges at the beliefs of others when lacking his own personal knowledge.


14 posted on 01/14/2008 6:17:51 AM PST by pgyanke (Duncan Hunter 08--You want to elect a conservative? Then support a conservative!)
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To: thundrey

Common sense says that

a) not all Moslems are cruel or sneaky

b) however, the religion itself is, and thus, not to be trusted and truly respected. Never mind all the historical “incidents” that back up that view.

1 doesn’t need to know anyone to have cognizance of both these points.


19 posted on 01/14/2008 6:34:44 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: thundrey

I have worked with and met quite a few. But I’ve also read the koran. Like “Mien Kampf” it’s a blue print for the domination of the world by one group of people. Unlike “Mien Kampf” it spells out in rather graphic terms what is to be done to any person or people who resist subjugation.


25 posted on 01/14/2008 10:04:21 AM PST by fella (The proper application of the truth far more important than the knowledge of it's existance."Ike")
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