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‘Renaissance Couldn’t Have Happened Without Muslim Input’
Arab News ^
| 15 January 2008
| Hassna’a Mokhtar
Posted on 01/15/2008 5:15:30 AM PST by forkinsocket
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To: forkinsocket
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posted on
01/15/2008 6:10:58 AM PST
by
Cacique
(quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
To: biggerten
Try doing algebra some time, and math without arabic numerals. There is no such thing as "arabic numerals."
There are, however, Hindu numerals, adopted by Arabs and others.
And algebra is not Arabic, but a Persian systematization of Indian mathematics.
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posted on
01/15/2008 6:11:42 AM PST
by
wideawake
(Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
To: Biggirl
No doubt islam contirbuted alot back in the day.
But how can one brag when all of the progress is in the rear view mirror?
Bizarre.
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posted on
01/15/2008 6:13:57 AM PST
by
Red in Blue PA
(Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
To: forkinsocket
seems the LIMITED contribution of the arab world was from sleazy merchant who were selling “useless” Greek and Roman scrolls to infidels.
The arab words contribution was akin to “one man’s junk is another man’s treasure.”
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posted on
01/15/2008 6:20:18 AM PST
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: wideawake
I understand that there are political points to be made, but Fibocacci published the Liber Abaci based upon what he learned from Arabs. So in 1250 Europe is still using Roman numerals and by 1700, we’re doing calculus.
Also, though I am sure your specific citations are accurate, my understanding is that some of the Greek texts, especially in mathematics, were eventually translated into Latin and vernacular from Arabic translations. There was a contribution.
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posted on
01/15/2008 6:26:20 AM PST
by
swain_forkbeard
(Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
To: Katydidnt
I have also heard documentaries that play accademic humor by referen to the “Before Christian Era” and “Christian Era.”
Drives the atheists wild.
46
posted on
01/15/2008 6:27:35 AM PST
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: JWinNC
>>Does BCE=BC and CE=AD?
>Yes
Just think of BCE and CE as the metric system applied to years...
47
posted on
01/15/2008 6:42:54 AM PST
by
chilepepper
(The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
To: forkinsocket
Renaissance Couldnt Have Happened Without Muslim InputThe title makes a good point. Without the need to protect themselves from the invading Muslim terrorists, the Westerners might have not advanced technology as fast as we did.
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posted on
01/15/2008 6:44:58 AM PST
by
norwaypinesavage
(Planting trees to offset carbon emissions is like drinking water to offset rising ocean levels)
To: forkinsocket
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posted on
01/15/2008 6:45:21 AM PST
by
Eric in the Ozarks
(ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
To: Tanniker Smith
So, you know something. Every time my students complain in my Algebra class and whine about the subject, Ill tell them to blame the Muslims.So you openly admit that you are a member of the terrorist group Al Gebra?
To: Vaquero
Seems to me I just recently read in the Smithsonian Magazine about the destruction of the great library in Alexandria, Egypt by the conquering mohammedens. Maybe that was just an isolated incident, though.
To: PapaBear3625
People tend to forget that after the Western Roman Empire started coming apart, the Eastern Roman Empire (the Byzantine empire centered in Constantinople) was still going strong, until it fell to Muslim invasion
The fall of Byzantium followed by the Muslim strangulation of trade on the Silk Road led directly to the age of Discovery by the Europeans in order to find a cheaper and more reliable East-West trade route.
To: norwaypinesavage
Well....The proximate cause of the renaissance is the fleeing of Byzantine scholars to Florence , Rome, and other Italian city-states. They brought with them classic authors of Greek and Roman antiquity, whose works had been largely lost in the west since the Fall of Rome. Those works were translated into the vernacular, these translations inspired contemporary scholars-and viola, we have a renaissance in Italy . (Followed by renaissances in other European countries a few decades to a century or so later.)
Why were those Byzantine scholars fleeing to the west?
Because Byzantium was under attack from moslem hordes.
Giving moslems credit for the renaissance is like giving a burglar credit for thwarting later attempted robberies, because his initial burglary made the victim install a better alarm system.
To: PapaBear3625
To be completely honest it was the 4th Crusade with crippled the Byzantine Empire and left it ripe for the taking.
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posted on
01/15/2008 7:00:06 AM PST
by
Raymann
To: wideawake
And I thank you for your very interesting and informative post.
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posted on
01/15/2008 7:05:19 AM PST
by
bboop
(Stealth Tutor)
To: Katydidnt
To: forkinsocket
I minored in Portuguese and we studied the history of the Muslims and their achievements on the Iberian peninsula. There is a lot of truth to this - with the West overlooking a lot of the achievements by the Islamic empire.
Makes one wonder why that dropped off. No denying that it did.
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posted on
01/15/2008 7:12:24 AM PST
by
tortdog
To: biggerten
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posted on
01/15/2008 7:12:33 AM PST
by
Unassuaged
(I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
To: Raymann
To be completely honest it was the 4th Crusade with crippled the Byzantine Empire and left it ripe for the taking. And the 4th Crusade was in response to raging Buddhists?
To: biggerten
Try doing algebra some time, and math without arabic numerals. Which the Muslim conquerers of India got from Indian mathematicians, then re-labeled as their own
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