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Huckabee Signs "No Amnesty" Pledge in SC (Fox video included)
FoxNews.com ^ | 1-16-2008 | Serafin Gomez

Posted on 01/16/2008 6:04:10 PM PST by unspun

Edited on 01/16/2008 6:25:40 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Saundra Duffy
And when amnesty DOES happen under his watch, his reply will be:

A: The courts ordered it
B: I didn't grant amnesty, I raised hope!
C: It was for the children... and highways

61 posted on 01/16/2008 7:02:52 PM PST by rintense (Thompson / Hunter 2008!)
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To: Soliton

you are such a broken record


62 posted on 01/16/2008 7:20:04 PM PST by steel_resolve (If you can't stand behind our troops, then please stand in front...)
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To: rintense
And when amnesty DOES happen under his watch, his reply will be:

A: The courts ordered it
B: I didn't grant amnesty, I raised hope!
C: It was for the children... and highways

Looks like you nailed it here!

Check out this excerpt from a letter created by a disgusted Arkansan who watched the Republican party unravel under Huckabee's super-RINO activities.

A Plea from Arkansas: Christian Conservatives Need to Take a Closer Look at Mike Huckabee's Record as Governor

by David Thompson

.........................................................

3) Governor Huckabee's pattern was to ignore immigration laws, often in the name of Christianity.

Huckabee opposed immigration enforcement as governor on a number of fronts. Immigration enforcement groups call Huckabee’s record on immigration "a disaster" and reference him as they guy who "scares the heck" out of them.
  • In 2001, Huckabee’s human services liaison Robert Trevino pushed for legislation to provide driver’s licenses for illegals. It was understood by legislators that he acted with Huckabee's blessing.
  • In 2001, Huckabee opposed a measure to require proof of citizenship to vote.
  • In 2005, Huckabee supported a bill that offered illegal immigrants in-state tuition rates and made them eligible for the same merit-based scholarships to Arkansas state colleges and universities as legal citizens. The bill would have violated federal law and was not enacted by the legislature.
  • In 2005, he opposed a bill that denied some state benefits to illegals and required proof of citizenship to vote (patterned after Arizona’s Prop 200 that has been successful in curtailing illegal immigration in that state). In this story, Huckabee called the measure "un-American….inflammatory….race-baiting and demagoguery." He added that the bill "inflames those who are racist and bigots and makes them think there’s a real problem. But there’s not." He then singled out State Senator Jim Holt, also an openly professing Christian, saying, "I drink a different kind of Jesus juice."
  • In 2005, Huckabee criticized federal agents for a recent crackdown on illegals, saying that it wasn’t fair to the innocent family members of those targeted in the operation. (No word on whether he also opposes raids on other law-breakers who might also have innocent family members affected by the fruits of their illegal activity.)
  • In 2005, Huckabee promoted an "open door" policy on immigration as he addressed the League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC) national convention in Little Rock. LULAC is a left-leaning group that opposes virtually all measures of immigration enforcement.
"He was an absolute disaster on immigration as governor. Every time there was any enforcement in his state, he took the side of the illegal aliens." - Roy Beck, president of NumbersUSA, a group that played a major role in rallying the phone calls that helped defeat this year's Senate immigration bill.

"I would hope he could be trusted to secure the borders, but given his track record in Arkansas, I don't see the conservative he has portrayed himself to be in Iowa." - Jake Files, a former Arkansas state representative and current chairman of the Sebastian County Republican Party

Source

63 posted on 01/16/2008 7:23:06 PM PST by henbane
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To: All
Count 1: Weakest in the Republican field on immigration

Exhibit A: Huckabee calls immigration bill "un-Christian, anti-life"

(Arkansas Senate Bill 206 would have denied state benefits to illegal aliens, required proof of citizenship to vote, and require state agencies to report illegal aliens.)

Even if benefits to people who are in the U.S illegally could be stopped, "I don't understand how a practicing Christian can turn his back on a child from this or any other state," Huckabee said.

"Something that's not worth sharing is not worth celebrating," Huckabee said. "This is the kind of country that opens its doors. This bill expresses an un-American attitude."

(Immigration bill un-Christian, anti-life, governor says, Arkansas News Bureau, 01/28/2005)

He said the bill could hurt the state's ability to recruit industries based in countries outside the U.S., such as Toyota or Nestle, a Swiss company.

"If we send a message that essentially if you don't look like us, talk like us and speak like us we don't want you, it has tremendous economic repercussions," Huckabee said.

(Huckabee, callers go toe-to-toe on immigration, Arkansas News Bureau, 02/03/2005)

Exhibit B: Huckabee promotes "open door" policy at LULAC convention

LITTLE ROCK - In a impassioned speech before hundreds of influential Hispanic civil rights leaders from across the nation, Gov. Mike Huckabee told a captive audience Wednesday that America is great because it has always opened it doors up to people seeking a better way of life.

(snip)

Despite several light moments, Huckabee did not stray away from several controversial issues that made him a target of criticism during the recently ended 85th General Assembly. He said Arkansas needs to make the transition from a traditional Southern state to one that recognizes and cherishes diversity "in culture, in language and in population."

(snip)

The Republican governor, who many believe will run for president in 2008, also backed legislation that would have opened the door for illegal immigrants in Arkansas to receive college scholarships.

House Bill 1525 by Rep. Joyce Elliott, D-Little Rock, was approved by the House but eventually failed in the Senate. Huckabee reiterated Wednesday that he believes every child, regardless of their parent's immigration status, should have an opportunity to receive an education in the U.S.

"I ... believe that an education for every child is the most important single factor to give everyone to be their very best," he said.

(Huckabee promotes "open door" policy at LULAC convention, Arkansas News Bureau, 01/30/2005)

Exhibit C: Huckabee threatens to sue feds over ID rules

WASHINGTON (AP) — States are threatening to challenge in court and even disobey new orders from Congress to start issuing more uniform driver's licenses and verify the citizenship or legal status of people getting them.

(snip)

"Governors are looking at all their options. If more than half of the governors agree we're not going down without a fight on this, Congress will have to consider changing this unfunded federal mandate," said Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, vice chairman of the National Governors Association. A Huckabee aide said the options include court action.

(States may disobey new ID rules, fight them in court, USA Today, 05/10/2005)

Exhibit D: Immigration group: Huckabee a 'disaster'

Groups that support a crackdown on illegal aliens haven't settled on their champion in the race for the White House, but there's little doubt which Republican scares them most — former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee.

"He was an absolute disaster on immigration as governor," said Roy Beck, president of NumbersUSA, a group that played a major role in rallying the phone calls that helped defeat this year's Senate immigration bill. "Every time there was any enforcement in his state, he took the side of the illegal aliens."

As Mr. Huckabee rises in the polls, his opponents are beginning to take shots at him on immigration. Just as problematic for the former Arkansas governor, however, is that the independent interest groups that track the issue are also giving him the once-over, and don't like what they see.

"Huckabee is the guy who scares the heck out of me," said Peter Gadiel, president of 9-11 Families for a Secure America, a group instrumental in fighting for the REAL ID Act that sets federal standards for driver's licenses.

(Immigration group: Huckabee a 'disaster', By Stephen Dinan, Washington Post, November 30, 2007)

Exhibit E: Illegals foes reject nod to Huckabee

Minuteman co-founder James Gilchrist's endorsement of presidential candidate Mike Huckabee has spurred a backlash among illegal-immigration opponents who say the former Arkansas governor is soft on immigration enforcement.

"Mike Huckabee is pro-amnesty and favors a path to citizenship for illegal aliens currently in the U.S. that would require a lifting of current penalties," said William Gheen, whose 25,000-member Americans for Legal Immigration sent mass mailings yesterday to more than 300 pro-enforcement groups.

"Huckabee has released an immigration plan that contains the deceptive 'touch back' provision that the pushers of amnesty tried on us in Washington this year," he said. "He wants to trick the nation by having illegal aliens leave for a day to pick up new papers at an office set up across the border and then walk right back."

(snip)

Bob Wright, who heads the Patriots' Border Alliance, another Minuteman splinter group, said although Mr. Gilchrist helped move the issue of illegal entry into the U.S. "to it's rightful place on the national stage," his endorsement of Mr. Huckabee "is at best disturbing."

"While I believe it is possible for a professional politician to change his mind on a subject as he becomes more informed, I have serious doubts that is the case with Huckabee," Mr. Wright said. "His past rhetoric about the goals of Minutemen everywhere has been vicious — parroting the tired and discredited foolishness that an American citizen's desire to see the law enforced is somehow racist or xenophobic."

(snip)

(Illegals foes reject nod to Huckabee, By Jerry Seper, The Washington Times, 12-13-2007)

Exhibit F: Corsi: Huckabee's tough talk on immigration doesn't match his record/ Mexican Consular Office Affair

"Huckabee has the same problem on immigration that Mitt Romney has -- and that is Mitt Romney and Huckabee, as governors, do not have a strong secure border record. And Huckabee's record is terrible," according to Jerome Corsi, an adamant border hawk. (be sure to go to the source and read the whole article)

I would argue that while Romney's record is less than stellar, he's head and shoulders above the duplicitous Huckster (whose record on immigration is detailed on this blog, just scroll down). While Romney tolerated sanctuary cities in his state, Huckabee encouraged them by rewarding illegal aliens with scholarships, discounted college tuition, and state benefits.

Huckabee also established a Mexican Consular office in Little Rock, which "increases the capacity of the Mexican state to bring attention, protection, and assistance to all of those living abroad, independently from their immigration status", according to Mexican ambassador Arturo Sarukhan. It also issues "matricula consular" cards, with which illegal aliens can open bank accounts and obtain other services.

In 2003, Huckabee (on a state-owned aircraft) to Mexico with Robert Trevino, who was the director of the League of United Latin American Citizens (aka LULAC) and Huckabee's "Economic Development adviser". There they met with Vincente Fox.

In 2006, Arkansas leased government office space, including furniture, to the Mexican government for $1 per year to house the Consular office until they built their own headquarters. It's unclear whether this subsidized lease was in violation of state law.

(Critics question Huckabee's role in establishing Mexican consulate in Little Rock, Legality of Huckabee's Mexican consulate deal questioned)

Exhibit G: 84 leaders of Immigration Enforcement Groups Rebuke Gilchrist's Endorsement of Huckabee

From Americans for Legal Immigration:

PLEASE POST, FORWARD, and BROADCAST!

In reaction to Jim Gilchrist's (Co-Founder of Minutemen) lone endorsement of pro-amnesty Presidential Candidate Mike Huckabee:

We, the undersigned, state that our organizations stand against racism and Amnesty for illegal aliens. Instead, we stand for the enforcement of our existing immigration laws, the securing of America's borders, and attrition enforcement.

We have dedicated our efforts to fighting illegal immigration and we are compelled to warn the American public about the immigration stance and record of Presidential Candidate Mike Huckabee.

We denounce Jim Gilchrist's solo endorsement of a pro-amnesty and Open Borders candidate for President. Mr. Gilchrist does NOT speak for us!

Mike Huckabee is pro-amnesty and favors a "path to citizenship" for illegal aliens currently in the US, which would require a lifting of the current penalties.

Mike Huckabee is against ICE raids and decried them in his home state, when illegal aliens were arrested at companies that financially support his campaigns.

Mike Huckabee supports benefits for illegal aliens such as taxpayer subsidized in-state tuition.

Governor Huckabee also favors a "touchback" provision, which we feel is a trick to confuse voters. He would have illegal aliens leave for a day, pick up new papers, and then reenter the US LEGALLY, which is not the back of the immigration line! He has stated that illegal aliens could leave and "You do have a pathway to get back here legally that would take days, maybe weeks, not years."

Mike Huckabee supported Comprehensive Immigration Reform Amnesty that failed in the US Senate and was rejected by a large majority of Americans. He stated that those who opposed the legislation are "driven by racism or nativism."

Mike Huckabee has distorted the goals of "attrition enforcement" and the positions of Mark Krikorian by adding visa expansions, expedited visas, and "touchback", which would counteract enforcement measures.

In truth, Mike Huckabee's stances on the illegal immigration issue are out of line with the vast majority of Americans.

Go to the source to see the impressive list of signatories, as it's too long to post here.

Exhibit H: WaPo Fact Checker: Three Pinocchios for Huckabee on Illegal Immigration

WaPo is link only.

Exhibit I: Huckabee: I can’t compromise on scholarships for illegals because “my soul will not let me” (video)

64 posted on 01/16/2008 7:24:04 PM PST by lesser_satan (READ MY LIPS: NO NEW RINOS | FRED THOMPSON - DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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To: umgud

One that involves bypassing all the current laws and paying a tiny “fine”.


65 posted on 01/16/2008 7:28:15 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: ProCivitas

” I’d be interested to hear his current speeches on the issue, and his reasoning. And his thoughts on his previous position.”
_____________

Don’t believe him.

I was listening to Laura Ingraham talking with Center for Immigration Studies Mark Krikorian yesterday . Huckabee claims Krikorian devised his ‘immigration’ policy for him. Mark said he had been contacted by several people and wrote up a brief ‘what had to be done list’, by no means a complete policy that was published some time ago.

Huckabee simply took that article, added little to it and implied Mark and Huck worked out this new ‘policy’. Mark has never worked with or endorsed Huck. Never.
His supporters made it sound like CIS had worked with him on this and thereby endorsed him for Pres.

Krikorian says, [Well, at least he credited me with writing it]

http://www.lauraingraham.com/

Cool clips (Laura365)
NEW! Mark Kirkorian on the immigration issue.(pay to play)

This seems to be the article Krikorian was talking about that Huckabee hijacked.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2005/mskoped052305.html
Ten Points for a Successful Presidential Candidate

By Mark Krikorian

National Review
May 23, 2005

SEE ALSO:

Cato Institute’s Fiscal Policy Report Card on America’s Governors: 2006. http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=6724

Arkansas Mike Huckabee, Republican Legislature: Democratic Final-Term Grade: F Final Overall Grade: D

Thanks to a final term grade of F, Huckabee earns an overall grade of D for his entire governorship. Like many Republicans, his grades dropped the longer he stayed in office. In his first few years, he fought hard for a sweeping $70 million tax cut package that was the first broad-based tax cut in the state in more than 20 years. He even signed a bill to cut the state’s 6 percent capital gains tax—a significant progrowth accomplishment.

But nine days after being reelected in 2002, he proposed a sales tax increase to cover a budget deficit caused partly by large spending increases that he proposed and approved, including an expansion in Medicare eligibility that Huckabee made a centerpiece of his 1997 agenda. He agreed to a 3 percent income tax “surcharge” and a 25-cent cigarette tax increase. In response to a court order to increase spending on education, Huckabee proposed another sales tax increase. Huckabee wants to run for the GOP presidential nomination next year. He’s already been hailed as a viable big-government conservative candidate by some. That seems about right: Huckabee’s leadership has left taxpayers in Arkansas much worse off.

Apparently the good folks in Arkansas had a rough time of it with Mike Huckabee: Big Government Conservative.

Huckabee was in line with these governors:

Montana Brian Schweitzer (D)* 47 F Alabama Bob Riley (R) 47 F Washington Christine Gregoire (D)* 47 F Arkansas Mike Huckabee (R) 46 F Nevada Kenny Guinn (R) 46 F Delaware Ruth Ann Minner (D)* 44 F North Carolina Michael Easley (D)* 44 F Arizona Janet Napolitano (D) 43 F Louisiana Kathleen Blanco (D)* 43 F Ohio Bob Taft (R) 53 C Kentucky Ernie Fletcher (R) 53 C Maryland Robert Ehrlich (R) 53 C Vermont James Douglas (R) 53 C Michigan Jennifer Granholm (D) 53 C

http://ajacksonian.blogspot.com/2007/12/looking-at-republican-field.html


66 posted on 01/16/2008 7:34:11 PM PST by AuntB (" DON'T LET THE PRESS PICK YOUR CANDIDATE!" Mrs. Duncan Hunter 1/5/08)
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To: unspun

sounds like one of President Bush’s promises...


67 posted on 01/16/2008 7:37:28 PM PST by rolling_stone (same)
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To: Grunthor
So how does Huckaliberal DEFINE amnesty?

Same as Mclame. !!! Mclame says it isn't amnesty until Ted says it is amnesty.

68 posted on 01/16/2008 7:38:26 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: unspun
Improve our immigration process so that those patiently and responsibly seeking to come here legally will not have to wait decades to share in the American dream.

I live on a farm, I grew up on a farm, and I know bullshit when I read it.

Like he told Mike Wallace, this should be a matter of hours. I call that touch back amnesty and open borders.

As I have said before, I will volunteer to drive democrats to the polls before I would see Huckbee are mclame as president.

69 posted on 01/16/2008 7:47:26 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: unspun
Huckabee didn't consider the Bush Amnesty plan to be amnesty. So his "No Amnesty" Pledge is meaningless.

It's not amnesty of McCain or Huckabee say it isn't.

2006: Supported President Bush's immigration plan and claimed that opposition to Bush's proposal was driven by "racism or nativism" and that it wasn't amnesty. (Ralph Hallow, "Huckabee 'Serious' About Presidency," Washington Times, 5/17/06)

70 posted on 01/16/2008 7:48:39 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Nervous Tick
The words of Jesus Christ from Matthew 7: 15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. “

The Bible teaches that repentence is immediate.

71 posted on 01/16/2008 7:55:18 PM PST by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us.")
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To: lesser_satan
A picture, worth however many words, of what commits Huckabee after he is sworn in as president.
72 posted on 01/16/2008 8:13:27 PM PST by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us.")
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To: lesser_satan

BTW, what organization is putting your stuff together, less?


73 posted on 01/16/2008 8:14:42 PM PST by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us.")
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To: unspun

Nobody but me. They’re all excerpted from various sources. See the links.


74 posted on 01/16/2008 8:18:10 PM PST by lesser_satan (READ MY LIPS: NO NEW RINOS | FRED THOMPSON - DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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To: ElPatriota
Hunter sure has the issues. (And I agree with his Americanism, though I just wouldn't take it quite as far as he has in Congress -- just almost.)

MIKE HUCKABEE

- Pro-Life
- Pro-1st Amendment
- Pro-2nd Amendment
- Pro-10th Amendment
- Pro-Sovereignty, Anti-Globalist/Corporatist Suzerainty
- Pro-Israel (no land giveaways)
- Pro-Marriage
- Pro-Overwhelming Defense
- Pro-Border Security & Immigration Enforcement
- Small Government Fiscal Conservative
- Pro-American Business
- Pro-Opportunity
- Pro-Wage Earner
- Pro-Tax Reform
- Pro-Personal Investment
- Pro-Individual Healthcare Empowerment
- Pro-Private/Home Education

It would be shameful not to back him up vs. John McCain.

Mike Huckabee on the Issues

75 posted on 01/16/2008 8:20:46 PM PST by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us.")
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To: lesser_satan
Nice work -- in collecting distortions, half-truths, and otherwise slanted reports.
76 posted on 01/16/2008 8:21:50 PM PST by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us.")
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To: Soliton
Thompson said one reason he is hesitant about running

The Huckabee truth squad says the only finding by the Arkansas Ethics Commission that Huckabee accepted a gift improperly was tossed out by a state court. In fact, the panel investigated 16 complaints against Huckabee and found five violations. Only one, for accepting a $500 canoe from Coca-Cola, was tossed out.

77 posted on 01/16/2008 8:40:36 PM PST by the808bass (One irrelevant unproven smear deserves one irrelevant proven charge.)
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To: Shortstop7
I’m waiting for someone to quote where the Huckster says anything about McCain and amnesty? Anyone? Hellllooo??

It's ok for Huckabee to angle for Veep cuz he's doing it for Jesus. Geez. Do I have to hold everyone's hands?

78 posted on 01/16/2008 8:43:31 PM PST by the808bass (/sarcasm)
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To: ElPatriota
3-Very clear in is position on Traditional-family (anti fag-marriage)

Nice. Very nice. (And by "nice," I mean "not nice.")

4-Understands the need to have a very powerful MILITARY

As long as someone points him to the right country, he'll be a master of foreign policy too.

79 posted on 01/16/2008 8:47:15 PM PST by the808bass
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To: steel_resolve; Soliton
you are such a broken record

I'd say he's a digital loop. Records, even broken ones, have that soothing analog quality.

80 posted on 01/16/2008 8:49:47 PM PST by the808bass
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