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Airliner crash lands at Heathrow
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| 17/01/2007
Posted on 01/17/2008 6:17:58 AM PST by UKTory
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To: SlowBoat407
Countdown to amateur speculation on the cause in 10... ..1...0. I'm betting on loss of power on short final. Nothing to do but keep the wings level and land where you land.
To: UKTory
Says the flight had all appeared to go normally, the landing gear had come down, was on approach to runway and then seemed to just drop. Which could mean just about anything.
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posted on
01/17/2008 6:41:51 AM PST
by
r9etb
To: r9etb; SlowBoat407
> Countdown to amateur speculation on the cause in 10...Too late.
Well, DUH!
It was obviously Global WarmingTM
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posted on
01/17/2008 6:43:15 AM PST
by
TChris
("if somebody agrees with me 70% of the time, rather than 100%, that doesn’t make him my enemy." -RR)
To: r9etb
Wind shear on final approach?
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posted on
01/17/2008 6:43:16 AM PST
by
Milwaukee_Guy
(Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
To: UKTory
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posted on
01/17/2008 6:44:41 AM PST
by
Milwaukee_Guy
(Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
To: UKTory
To low on approach it would appear. The Captain & co-pilot are probably dusting off their resumes ... going to be flying general cargo for some obscure airline next.
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posted on
01/17/2008 6:44:41 AM PST
by
BluH2o
To: UKTory
Most likely an engine failure on final, may have been a bird may have been fan blade failure, it was a long non stop flight. Good to see it was a successful landing.
To: Milwaukee_Guy
“Wind shear on final approach?”
I’m about 100 miles from Heathrow but it’s certainly bloody windy here today. Sudden gust nearly blew me into the road when I was out earlier.
Based on that scientific research, I rank your suggestion third in most likely causes behind (2) a passenger using their mobile phone and (1) the co-pilot saying “what does this button do?”.
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posted on
01/17/2008 6:47:16 AM PST
by
UKTory
To: SlowBoat407
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posted on
01/17/2008 6:47:59 AM PST
by
An Old Marine
(Freedom isn't Free)
To: UKTory
Sky News reporter said the damaged plane will take “days” to remove. He said a barrier will be constructed while the plane is made ready to move, so as not to distress people on other flights.
I wonder if the wreck will keep the runway closed at a very busy airport?
What a pain ....
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posted on
01/17/2008 6:49:33 AM PST
by
Milwaukee_Guy
(Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
To: UKTory
I'll add my guess:
- it probably wasn't an engine or power failure; it was probably pilot error; dipping below Decision Height (DH) on a precision approach, or below the Minimum Descent Altitude on a non-precision approach.
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posted on
01/17/2008 6:49:57 AM PST
by
SkyPilot
To: An Old Marine
“Clearly Bushs fault.”
I can see some trees in the background behind the aircraft, but it is unknown at this stage whether any bushes were involved ;)
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posted on
01/17/2008 6:50:04 AM PST
by
UKTory
To: SkyPilot
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posted on
01/17/2008 6:54:27 AM PST
by
UNGN
(I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
To: UKTory
Good One
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posted on
01/17/2008 6:58:04 AM PST
by
An Old Marine
(Freedom isn't Free)
To: UKTory
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posted on
01/17/2008 6:59:10 AM PST
by
Milwaukee_Guy
(Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
To: SkyPilot
Looks like he touched down a good 1500’ or more short of the start of the pavement, and just barely missed that perimeter road. Apparently some eyewitnesses were saying that the plane was banking steeply on final and the engine power sounded higher than normal (but we all know how reliable eyewitnesses aren’t).
Plane is a Boeing 777-236ER, registration G-YMMM. 136 passengers on board. If they can’t fix it and have to scrap it, this would be the first hull-loss accident ever for the B777.
}:-)4
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posted on
01/17/2008 6:59:27 AM PST
by
Moose4
(Wasting away again in Michaelnifongville.)
To: Moose4
I think Boeing can fix that plane, as it appears most of the fuselage stayed intact. After all, Boeing many years ago managed to completely repair a Japan Airlines 747-200B that slid off the runway at Anchorage International Airport and suffered a
HUGE amount of damage.
They'll probably have to rebuild parts of the lower fuselage and replace both wings, though.
To: UNGN
“I’ll go pilot error all the way. Looks like a perfectly executed landing on the grass.”
Great link! It clearly shows that the plane -barely- missed auto traffic on a perimeter road and made a nice landing on the turf, lost all of it’s landing gear and skidded right up to a paved ramp.
This could have gone very, very badly!
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posted on
01/17/2008 7:06:51 AM PST
by
Milwaukee_Guy
(Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
To: TChris
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posted on
01/17/2008 7:08:45 AM PST
by
Vanders9
To: UKTory
Passenger and eyewitness accounts,
- Plane seemed to “drop like a stone”.
- Plane was 90 degrees toward runway on final appoach. (?)
- Made a severe left hand turn to line up with runway.
- Lots of engine noise.
- Vertical yawing and corrections on final.
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posted on
01/17/2008 7:11:49 AM PST
by
Milwaukee_Guy
(Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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