[Elvis_TCB]

My God created a universe that needed no tinkering.

How can it be Good if it needs adjustment? Why would God create a universe with laws that he had to break to make work?

It seems these IDers are looking for traces of spiritual duck tape, just so they can be sure God is real. How sad.

[bvw]

Tinkering? More than tinkering, but rather constant upkeep -- and even upkeep is too small a word. And thank G-d for it all, for that is the sign there is a caring G-d, a merciful G-d.

Nor does the Creator have to break any laws -- for there is plenty of room for adjustments to be made, all within the most exacting laws of physics, chemistry and biology as we know them, or might ever know them.

And what is the Good in that, for doesn't that mean the creation is imperfect, so you ask? What is the purpose for what might appear an imperfect world to our eyes -- an "imperfect, broken" creation by a loving, merciful and good G-d?

Perhaps the purpose! Perhaps the purpose is for us to build up our souls, and what seems what could be broke is a test to the soul -- and then by man's free will and the choices made by men, the great intrinsic desires for life, the result of spiritual forces disbursed into the creation -- our merciful G-d must continually adjust so that to men, to all souls and each soul at every instant the creation presented to each and to all souls, can be the perfect universe at that next instant. Perfect to be the best possible existence for spiritual growth, not just as a whole, but for each individually.

Is a conversation perfect?