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Bernanke endorses quick, temporary fiscal stimulus- Fed chief not predicting recession, ......
MarketWatch ^ | Jan. 17, 2008 11:54 a.m. EST | Rex Nutting, MarketWatch

Posted on 01/17/2008 12:40:38 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- Congress could help steer the economy away from recession if it adopted a quick, efficient and temporary fiscal stimulus plan, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke told Congress on Thursday.

Bernanke made it clear he wasn't forecasting a recession, but said action by Congress, along with more interest-rate cuts from the Fed, could help prevent one.

"Fiscal action could be helpful in principle, as fiscal and monetary stimulus together may provide broader support for the economy than monetary policies alone," he said in prepared testimony to the House Budget Committee. Quick action would be necessary.

"You know central bankers are concerned about the economy when they condone stimulative fiscal policy," wrote Michael Gregory, an economist for BMO Capital Markets.

"To be useful, a fiscal stimulus package should be implemented quickly and structured so that its effects on aggregate spending are felt as much as possible within the next 12 months or so," Bernanke said. "Any fiscal package should be efficient... Finally, any program should be explicitly temporary."

In a speech that closely resembled one he gave last week that suggested the Fed stood ready to continue to cut rates aggressively, the Fed chairman advised Congress to think carefully before cutting taxes or boosting spending to stimulate economic growth.

As Bernanke spoke, the White House also endorsed some extra stimulus to help the economy, but gave no details about its plans or the timing of its announcement. President Bush is expected to offer specific proposals for a stimulus at his annual State of the Union address on January 28.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: bernanke; bush; economy; fed; recessionfears
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All the major actors now agree on the need for something to be done, but there is no agreement, even in principle, on what the details would be.

Fed chief appears to side with Democratic proposals

1 posted on 01/17/2008 12:40:41 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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Audio from Marketwatch:

Laz & Noble go Off the News, a MarketWatch audio roundup

*****************************Intro*************************

MarketWatch news editors Anthony Lazarus and Chris Noble don't even raise an eyebrow at Merrill Lynch's billions in write-downs, but enter a broad discussion into the economic impacts of Ben Bernanke's proposed stimulus in a political year.

2 posted on 01/17/2008 12:42:37 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Fed chief appears to side with Democratic proposals

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I.E. Do whatever it takes to destroy the US encomomy in time for the elections?

3 posted on 01/17/2008 12:43:20 PM PST by WakeUpAndVote (Beef.)
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U.S. stocks turn negative as Fed chairman speaks
Fed bank: Manufacturing in Philadelphia region contracted sharply in January

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NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- U.S. stocks on Thursday sold off for a third day straight, propelling the Dow to near 10-month lows, as Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke spoke about the country's economic trouble and a regional measure of economic activity contracted.

'When reminded about how bad things are, the market remembers it should go down.'
— Art Hogan, Jefferies & Co.
"When reminded about how bad things are, the market remembers it should go down," said Art Hogan, chief market strategist at Jefferies & Co.
"And, it is going to take more than just monetary policy to clean up the mess we've made with this economy," Hogan said.
"The Philadelphia Fed Survey was a disaster, defying even the most pessimistic projections," said Frederic Ruffy, an analyst at Optionetics.
Up about 50 points after the start, and then down more than 100 points in early morning trade, the Dow Jones Industrial Average by late afternoon had shed 214.2 points to 12,252., with 23 of its 30 components trading lower.
In the 12 trading sessions since the year began, the blue-chip index has declined about 1,000 points, or 7.5%.

4 posted on 01/17/2008 12:46:20 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; blam; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle

The Economy is shaping up to be the number one issue in November.....


5 posted on 01/17/2008 12:48:15 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

The Dems want to hand out money....


6 posted on 01/17/2008 12:49:14 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I don't think the people on Wall Street liked what he had to say. It looks like we might hopefully be in the "throw in the towel" phase of this correction! We're getting slaughtered again right now.

Most of the damn indexes are 15-20% off their highs. The last year-plus of gains have been erased!

Man, if we end up stuck in a bear market, I'm gonna be PISSED! All the insiders and most reliable newsletters will have been WRONG!

7 posted on 01/17/2008 12:49:27 PM PST by RogerWilko
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The best thing the Fed Chair could have done is said that there were no perceived weaknesses in the economy and talk of recession is a media contrived stunt to play down the economy to get a Dumbocrat elected POTUS...and nothing needs to be done...


8 posted on 01/17/2008 12:51:21 PM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Economic problem isn’t interest and isn’t taxes.

It’s trade deals exporting jobs, factories, companies, dollars and Treasuries. The Washington money printing press will only increase the sale of wheelbarrows.


9 posted on 01/17/2008 12:51:40 PM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The Dems want to hand out your money....

Fixed it.

10 posted on 01/17/2008 12:52:47 PM PST by Paine in the Neck (Nepolean fries the idea powder)
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To: RogerWilko

“Man, if we end up stuck in a bear market, I’m gonna be PISSED! All the insiders and most reliable newsletters will have been WRONG!”

I am not real knowledgable, so I’m wondering if it’s time to run to higher ground? Should I move to bonds and guaranteed interest funds, or ride it to the bottom and hope I don’t get killed?


11 posted on 01/17/2008 12:52:53 PM PST by brownsfan (America has "jumped the shark")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

...it’s quickly becoming that with me.


12 posted on 01/17/2008 12:53:15 PM PST by GeorgiaDawg
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To: ex-snook

The problem is oil beginning to end. The USA lost control of oil about 1970.


13 posted on 01/17/2008 12:53:37 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
All the major actors now agree on the need for something to be done, but there is no agreement, even in principle, on what the details would be.

All major actors (especially the Fed) are responsible for screwing up our economy. Now they'll all slap each other on the back for coming to the rescue (using our money).

14 posted on 01/17/2008 12:53:39 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg

“...it’s quickly becoming that with me.”

Clearly you aren’t the target of the DBM, but the DBM does want the economy as the #1 issue. Everyone, even the Dems know that they are lousy on defense. If people feel we are at risk, the Dems are in deep do-do. But, if the economy becomes the focus, the Dems will spin away. As in: Remember the Clinton days? Lots of jobs, lots of money, lots of prosperity? Well, elect a Clinton again. *barf*

That is what we’ll see, and Joe sixpack will eat that up like it’s candy.


15 posted on 01/17/2008 12:57:15 PM PST by brownsfan (America has "jumped the shark")
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To: brownsfan

We have not begun to see earnings reports come in that reflect business reality. I see a Dow back in the mid-high 10,000s by summer. Gas prices are likely going to be in the middle to higher $3 range.

I am 100% in cash and while inflation is eating away at my position I am not down 15%-20% either. However, real estate has been beaten up pretty good as has the financial sector. I think that in 6 months those will be good sectors to get back into even if it means a 6 month buying period til year end.


16 posted on 01/17/2008 1:03:36 PM PST by misterrob
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To: brownsfan
I always feel like getting out, but I KNOW the second I get out, it'll probably turn around and I'll get burned. I rode it out last time (2000) and I wanted to get out before the next major correction.

What really ticks me off was I was just about to move a lot of mutual funds into safer areas. I was waiting for Jan so I won't incur a bunch of tax liabilities and also figured Jan would probably be a decent month.

What a bunch of CRAP! Now I'm gonna have to wait it out for who knows how long. At this point, I will be surprised if we get back where we were by the end of the year. It's all a crapshoot right now... Will we go lower or are we going to turn around? I sure as hell don't know! I think all this doom and gloom is a tad overblown, but now we're getting a snowball effect!

17 posted on 01/17/2008 1:11:03 PM PST by RogerWilko
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To: ex-snook

“Economic problem isn’t interest and isn’t taxes.

It’s trade deals exporting jobs, factories, companies, dollars and Treasuries. The Washington money printing press will only increase the sale of wheelbarrows.”

Exactly and precisely. The powers that be have been running a liquidation sale of this country’s assets for sometime and getting very, very rich in the process.

I wonder if we aren’t much closer to a social meltdown of sorts over all of this than most of us here on FR care to realize or admit.


18 posted on 01/17/2008 1:21:15 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Easiest daytrading environment ever. Just short. Every day.


19 posted on 01/17/2008 1:30:46 PM PST by montag813
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The Dems want to hand out money....

So does Bush. Let's see...Screwing Israel on behalf of Arabs; caving in to Democrat economics...just like his dear old Dad!

20 posted on 01/17/2008 1:32:08 PM PST by montag813
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