Posted on 01/17/2008 6:14:34 PM PST by newbie2008
Please tell me you are kidding...
Look at the SSA FAQ page...http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/ProgData/fundFAQ.html#n5
As stated in the answer to “What happens to the taxes that go into the trust funds?”, most of the money flowing into the trust funds is invested in U. S. Government securities. Because the government spends this borrowed cash, some people see the current increase in the trust fund assets as an accumulation of securities that the government will be unable to make good on in the future. Without legislation to restore long-range solvency of the trust funds, redemption of long-term securities prior to maturity would be necessary.
Far from being “worthless IOUs,” the investments held by the trust funds are backed by the full faith and credit of the U. S. Government. The government has always repaid Social Security, with interest. The special-issue securities are, therefore, just as safe as U.S. Savings Bonds or other financial instruments of the Federal government.
Many options are being considered to restore long-range trust fund solvency. These options are being considered now, over 30 years in advance of the year the funds are likely to be exhausted. It is thus likely that legislation will be enacted to restore long-term solvency, making it unlikely that the trust funds’ securities will need to be redeemed on a large scale prior to maturity.
As$hat: You make it sound like I had a choice! Gee, stupid me … I should have refused.
I'm due in May 2010.
I'm willing to consider any reasonable program to eliminate SS over time by decreasing the payments. But I'm not about to bear the burden alone by refusing the money. I figure the goverment will be trying to get some of it back from me over the coming years anyway.
Not directly, but it does get spent by going into the general fund.
24.1 Are the Social Security trust funds left untouched and saved exclusively for Social Security purposes?
Social Security contributions which are not needed to pay current benefits are invested in government securities which are required by law to have maturity dates with due regard to the needs of the trust funds. The government also pays interest to the trust funds, at a long term rate determined by law. The government uses the invested funds to finance other government spending. The government owes the money which the trust funds have loaned to it and the government will have to repay it as the securities come due.
So, once again I would ask, how is the government going to meet that obligation?
Absolutely.
If anyone other that the government tried this, they would be prosecuted for fraud.
Not at all. You had no choice. I had no choice. But that doesn't change the fact that the unsound nature of the program was discernible since before I was even in the workforce. There is no justification whatever for believing that you would get what was promised and certainly no justification to believe that those who will pay for YOU will get ANYTHING.
You're not going to claim to be surprised in some future year when people who have been paying you become the majority and REFUSE TO PAY, are you?
Our generation, when it was in the political majority, supported perpetuating and enlarging this program. The next generation, when it is in the political majority, will END IT.
Nobody ever deserved a single dime from this unsound program. And this has been clearly known, I think, for at least thirty years, if not longer.
Because it was a government mandate, and it is in failure, I don’t deserve anything? If I had had a choice, I would agree, otherwise … I think I should get, at the very least, my original funds back. I think I deserve that, at least. Fortunately, I was able to see this coming and via 401Ks, investments and general savings I will survive, however … I still think I should get my “forced savings” back.
There is a reason that I swear when I hear the names of such folks as FDR and LBJ.
Understand, sorry for my confusion.
That’s just the way it is. LOL
Assuming, like me, you very early recognized the injustice of this wealth redistribution, then you do deserve compensation. But the people who owe you are the Boomer politicians who adopted Soviet principles to deny you the benefit of your labor.
The next generation of politicians can justifiably denounce this policy and end it, with very little need to make amends to any of their elders.
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