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"There is systemic risk," says Eileen Fahey, managing director at Fitch Ratings and head bank credit analyst. "This could really damage the overall derivatives market."
1 posted on 01/17/2008 8:02:20 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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"There is systemic risk," says Eileen Fahey, managing director at Fitch Ratings and head bank credit analyst. "This could really damage the overall derivatives market."

That is a 15 TRILLION dollar market - all built on crap...

2 posted on 01/17/2008 8:08:41 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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“Ambac guaranteed $38 billion of debt linked to subprime mortgages and has exposure to $45 billion of other mortgage investments.”

What idiot thinks that ‘sub-prime’, the lending of money to people who can not pay if back, is a good idea? What supper idiot thought it was a good idea to guarantee it?

Even in business the weak die first. It keeps the herd healthy.

3 posted on 01/17/2008 8:09:19 PM PST by truemiester ((If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years))
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To: Vince Ferrer; 2banana; truemiester
The scary thing is that lenders and other capital providers are still paying attention to the rating agencies' meaningless ratings and rating changes. I'm a banker with a large international financial institution and would honestly give more credence to Britney Spears' opinion on the creditworthiness of rated loans, bond issues, and bond insurers, than I would to the ratings assigned by Moody's/Fitch/S&P. Ambac has been a walking corpse for months and just yesterday Moody's finally breaks down and says it "might" downgrade the corpse -- from triple A! Given that about 99% of bond insurers' business REQUIRES them to have a AAA rating, there are really only two ratings for bond insurers: AAA and DEAD. Take a look at Ambac's one year stock chart and decide which one of those ratings applies.



4 posted on 01/17/2008 10:12:09 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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