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Romney Surrounded by Pro-U.N. Lobbyists [with heavy-duty Clinton ties]
AIM ^ | January 17, 2008 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 01/17/2008 10:03:28 PM PST by EternalVigilance

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To: Dems_R_Losers

Excellent points


141 posted on 01/18/2008 7:16:34 AM PST by NYC Republican (The More People See and Hear Romney, without the Media Filter, the More They Like Him)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

Excellent points


142 posted on 01/18/2008 7:17:25 AM PST by NYC Republican (The More People See and Hear Romney, without the Media Filter, the More They Like Him)
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To: EternalVigilance; Spiff; Reaganesque; elizabetty; bethtopaz; restornu; lonevoice; ...

You must really think you are ulgy EV true you are not good looking but in school there must have been boys who picked on you so in adult life you have not gotten over it!

EV is not an ordinary FReeper he is a professional in the field of public life!

Just like Mitt you are fair game!

Because all you try to bemirsh this man if Mitt had lobbist it would be their millions an not Mitt personal wealth invested in this Champaign.


143 posted on 01/18/2008 7:34:51 AM PST by restornu (Understanding that Grace and Mercy is what one receives after all they can do!)
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To: Spiff; Reaganesque; elizabetty; bethtopaz; restornu; lonevoice; redgirlinabluestate; TAdams8591; ...

Gov. Romney On Ahmadinejad At The U.N. & Columbia University
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=U4QKb0Tn-yI


144 posted on 01/18/2008 8:05:14 AM PST by restornu (Understanding that Grace and Mercy is what one receives after all they can do!)
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To: restornu

While I certainly don’t know what a city in Illinois has to do with anything, I’ll point out that your denial of the involvement of some of the biggest lobbyists in Washington in Mitt Romney’s campaign is puzzling, to say the least. It’s apparent that you just plain don’t want to know the truth.

Your other stuff isn’t worth commenting on.


145 posted on 01/18/2008 8:16:31 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Mitt Romney hates lobbyists...even though a whole crowd of them are running his campaign...)
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To: endthematrix

“The “challenges that go far beyond any single nation or conflict” is called a New World Order.”

Your spouting meaningless rhetoric. Citing a challenge that allies work together to address does not imply anything nefarious.

“freer from the threat of terror, stronger in the pursuit of justice, and more secure in the quest for peace.” - oh dear, how awful for us all - peace and justice! (sarc)

So what’s your point? Bush senior was an wrong for standing up to saddam in Gulf War 1? He was wrong to call for international cooperation?
We shouldnt have enlisted allies in our fight against Al Qaeda like Bush 43 did when he invaded Afghanistan? After all, that’s all Romney was saying. We need to work with allies to defeat Jihadism.

Is he wrong? Should we go it alone against Jihadism? Should we come home and ignore the threats overseas and wait for them to come here like tey did on 9-11?

If the choice is international engagement versus the folly of isolationism, put me in camp #1. The only credible candidate in camp #2 is Ron Paul and IMHO he is wrong.


146 posted on 01/18/2008 8:53:57 AM PST by WOSG (Proamnesty-antiBushtaxcuts-proCO2caps-CFR-RINO John McCain delenda est!)
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To: EternalVigilance

He’s married to Andy card’s sister.


147 posted on 01/18/2008 9:06:00 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: EternalVigilance
>>>Fact is, Kaufman and Romney are very close friends.

Fact is he is not paid like you are.

You were Keyes National Campaing Director and you have been paid to write columns for Renew America Keyes' website. Your latest hit piece... Mike Huckabee is as bad as Mitt Romney on embryonic stem cells December 25, 2007.

I find it ironic that you try to malign Romney for an advisor who is not paid while you are. Perhaps a new tagline for you. Eternal Vigilance (Directly paid by someone who is directly connected with the Gloablist UN)

148 posted on 01/18/2008 9:18:04 AM PST by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: Rameumptom

Now you’re just making it up. What a shock.


149 posted on 01/18/2008 9:25:29 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Mitt Romney hates lobbyists...even though a whole crowd of them are running his campaign...)
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To: massgopguy

Ah.


150 posted on 01/18/2008 9:26:01 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Mitt Romney hates lobbyists...even though a whole crowd of them are running his campaign...)
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To: massgopguy

That factoid makes some other things snap into focus. Thanks.


151 posted on 01/18/2008 9:52:00 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Mitt Romney hates lobbyists...even though a whole crowd of them are running his campaign...)
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To: WOSG

I actually agree with many of your comments vis a vis foreign policy. America is called to be a shining city on a hill, not a lamp under a bushel.

And I don’t have a problem with lobbyists, per se. The right to petition our government is fundamental.

But, I do have a problem with lobbyists who line their pockets working for the interests of foreign governments to the detriment of our national interests. Those who push any kind of globalist agenda that erodes our national sovereignty are Benedict Arnolds of the worst possible sort.

My main focus concerning this story is on Mitt Romney’s hypocrisy in railing at Washington, when some of the biggest power players in that city, the men who have brought us to where we are, are his closest advisors.


152 posted on 01/18/2008 10:05:02 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Mitt Romney hates lobbyists...even though a whole crowd of them are running his campaign...)
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To: WOSG

In fact, I’m writing an article right now that contrasts the foreign policy views of Alan Keyes and Ron Paul. It’s entitled:

“Alan Keyes vs. Ron Paul: America is called to be a shining city on a hill, not a lamp under a bushel.”


153 posted on 01/18/2008 10:22:00 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Mitt Romney hates lobbyists...even though a whole crowd of them are running his campaign...)
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To: EternalVigilance

First your focus on Mitt calling out McCain’s lobbyists yet having some of his own: Fine. Romney still had a point on degree to which McCain is in it and he’s got outsiders, but so do you.

On Internationalism, I’ll address it to you, but it’s really to the ‘drift’ I see some discussions take once a few buzzwords get popped off, like CFR, NWO, etc., excuse the length:

“America is called to be a shining city on a hill, not a lamp under a bushel.”

Yes, and it is even more than that. We benefit from several trillion worth of trade. We have deep interconnections with the rest of the global economy, and our standard of living greatly depends on it. We are today the First of Nations, a pacesetter and leader in the world. I’m a guy who’s visited over two dozen countries in my travels and career, and it is foolish to ignore how much influence and interaction we have on the rest of the world. It’s tinfoil nuttery to see a dark conspiracy under every statement of global co-operation or allied engagement to address global issues.

These issues are real. We are not an island unto ourselves anymore - that ended with Pearl Harbor, and 911 was a reminder. If we conservatives have zero answer for these issues except to run away, then the socialists will have the ‘only’ solution. This goes to issues like global warming, the war on terror, even the UN’s role in the world. Abolishing or withdrawing from the UN is a far less realistic goal than laying out how a *freedom-oriented* global arrangement of sovereign nations would work and advocating that as an alternative. Redefine the UN along those lines and you have ground you can stand on.

I am a conservative who believes in freedom and believes it is a universal, not American, construct, just as Tom Jefferson penned it in the declaration of independence. If we apply these principles to the global problems we face, we come up with a very forward-looking pro-freedom agenda. I am saddened that good conservatives are castigated by folks for advocating that approach in international affairs.

I posted Romney’s statement that he was willing to have America withdraw from certain UN activities that were un-American and counterproductive. This Bolton-like bluntness is refreshing and needed. What’s not needed imho is Ron Paul like isolationism. We’ve got to engage or the world gets more in the orbit of the socialists and dictators.

I see nothing nefarious in what Vin Weber did, either as a Reaganite Congressman helping Newt or since then as a lobbyist helping out different organizations interact in DC. So he worked out a deal with Helms and others on UN funding? That’s *bad*?!? I simply have to step off the bandwagon of those who see NAFTA as something awful (it wasnt, it helped our economy); those who see CFR as a conspiracy (its not, Fred Thompson is in it) etc. The people who oppose these will have to be precise and specific about what is so horrible about engaging the world and come up with a credible engagement policy for how the US approaches the rest of the world. Fearmongering over acronyms and buzzwords doesnt cut it anymore.


154 posted on 01/18/2008 10:33:35 AM PST by WOSG (Proamnesty-antiBushtaxcuts-proCO2caps-CFR-RINO John McCain delenda est!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Interesting. Consider #154 as my 2 cents on the topic.


155 posted on 01/18/2008 10:37:31 AM PST by WOSG (Proamnesty-antiBushtaxcuts-proCO2caps-CFR-RINO John McCain delenda est!)
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To: WOSG; La Enchiladita; GOP_Lady; tortdog

Hear what the Netherlands say about this

When Journalists Lose Their Temper (Mitt)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1955834/posts


156 posted on 01/18/2008 10:43:29 AM PST by restornu (Understanding that Grace and Mercy is what one receives after all they can do!)
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To: WOSG
I find much common ground with your post.

Not everything, but a lot of it. Perhaps later in the day I'll get some time to come back in and address some of the specifics.

157 posted on 01/18/2008 11:45:10 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Mitt Romney hates lobbyists...even though a whole crowd of them are running his campaign...)
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To: freeplancer

“What will you do without freedom idiot?...”

RE: Speak for yourself. Some individuals buy whatever BS is offered under the conservative brand name, so long as some anointed “expert” among the cadre of talking heads provides rubber-stamp cover for questionable ingredients. I read product labels closely, and Romney’s contains mostly synthetic starch, artificial flavorings and added color. His “conservatism” neither looks, smells, or tastes like the genuine product. I was force-fed a steady diet of Chef Boy Romney’s RINO-roni for a few years in the Gay State of Fagachusetts. I not willing to eat another bite.

“...Joining FR a little late aren’t you for being such a warrior?...”

RE: Been here a while, chief. My life does not revolve around the blogosphere... and you?

“...Go back to DU”

RE: Never been there... not in this life or the one previous. However You would make a perfect poster child for the gullible — desperate to board Mitt Romney’s ‘Love Boat’... Let me guess... you just love those pearly white teeth and his immaculately pressed suit.


158 posted on 01/18/2008 3:52:25 PM PST by RTO (What will you do without freedom?)
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To: NYC Republican

NYC Republican, eh? Then you ought know a genuine conservative could never hold the corner office in Massachusetts. RINO’s, however, are always welcome in the Gay State House.

Ask William ‘No-Fetus-Can-Beat-Us’ Weld, Paul ‘Dom Paul ‘I-never-met-a-hack-I-would’nt-place-on the-state-payroll’ Cellucci, Jane ‘It’s-my-plane’ Swift... oh yes, and Boy ‘Wonder-if-I’ll-get-a-pass-on-this’ Romney. Thanks gov, for making Massachusetts the first government in all human history to legalize “marriage” between turd-burglin’ butt pirates.

You want flippin’ issues? Here are three:
Abortion, Gay ‘Rights’, and Gun Control... not necessarily in that order.

Romney couldn’t put the brakes on one activist lesbian judge working the MSJC... but you, and others here, think he’s going to reign in the looney-toon hacks of the US Congress? BWA-HAW-HAW-HAW. To paraphrase Boy Wonder: “Make any promise”


159 posted on 01/18/2008 4:19:43 PM PST by RTO (What will you do without freedom?)
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To: WOSG
"After all, that’s all Romney was saying."

Sorry, but he wasn't.

"If the choice is international engagement versus the folly of isolationism"

No, the choice is Elitism, global integration and interdependence versus Pluralism, sovereignty and independence.

160 posted on 01/18/2008 8:58:31 PM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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