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The Tale of No Tape
Orange County Weekly ^ | January 17, 2008 | DEREK OLSON

Posted on 01/18/2008 6:55:51 AM PST by forkinsocket

A self-appointed Minuteman-watcher says he had some video of a police traffic stop—but not for long

Santa Ana resident and warehouse worker Naui Huitzilopochtli has been pepper-sprayed, kicked, threatened and insulted for recording with his digital camera. But on Dec. 28, his citizen journalism got him another unexpected treat: being shaken down and probably added to a gang database by Garden Grove police, he says.

Huitzilopochtli, whose documentation of rallies involving anti-immigration group the Minutemen has sometimes ended in near-violence at the hands of angry protesters, says he pulled out his camera after noticing a police stop in Garden Grove at around 11 that night.

Huitzilopochtli, who says he has had bad personal experiences with police officers in the past, began documenting the stop. According to Huitzilopochtli, nearly 20 officers were searching and detaining six Hispanic men in a white SUV.

When the officers noticed him filming, he says, some of them approached, searched him, made him take off his shirt, took down his information, made fun of him when he tried to assert his rights and called him a gang member.

The worst part, according to Huitzilopochtli, is that one of the officers erased the video, which, he says, is a blatant violation of his First Amendment rights.

ACLU of Southern California staff attorney Peter Bibring, who specializes in police actions, says erasing the video was clearly against the law. "There's no circumstance under which erasing the video would be legal," he says.

Garden Grove Police Department spokesman Lieutenant Todd Elgin doesn't deny Huitzilopochtli's version of events, but he does say that the officer didn't know how to work the camera and erased the video by mistake. He says police took extra precautions when one of the men in the SUV—which was stopped because one of the men allegedly waved a gun at two off-duty Long Beach police officers—indicated that Huitzilopochtli was with them.

Elgin says Huitzilopochtli was only searched because the officers needed to ensure their safety and was only told to remove his shirt to check for tattoos indicating gang affiliation, of which Huitzilopochtli has none.

But Bibring says the officers acted improperly and violated his Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable searches.

"If they had reason to suspect he was armed, they can pat him down," he says. "Unless they have concrete reasons to believe a crime has been committed, they don't have the right to search him."

Huitzilopochtli believes the officers invented the story about one of the detainees claiming to know him as an excuse to detain him, he says. Although there were others standing around witnessing the stop, he says, it was his camera that attracted the police attention.

"The way I took it is, they were harassing me to try to humiliate me. You know, like try to scare me off," he says. "I think they were doing something wrong, or why would they come all hostile to me like that? There's more to the story."

Although Huitzilopochtli complained in person later that evening at the Garden Grove Police Department headquarters, Elgin says, he did not file a formal complaint.

"Honestly, the guy's been given every opportunity to complain," Elgin says. "I can't do anything unless I have some kind of complaint form in my hands."

Huitzilopochtli, who says he often protests for the rights of indigenous people, first got the idea to start filming such events after he was caught on film, he says. At a protest about a year and a half ago, one of the Minutemen protesters took his disposable camera, he says. Then they caught his very emotional response and posted it on YouTube, along with ridiculing comments.

Huitzilopochtli says he turned the camera back on them to expose them for what he believes they are: a fringe group of extremists.

"I try to get the other Minutemen that you don't see because they try to pretend they're this civilized, mainstream group," he says.

One of Huitzilopochtli's "greatest hits" was a widely circulated clip of Santa Ana schoolchildren chanting "Mexico!" at a group of Minutemen last year (see Daffodil J. Altan's "What's Illegal?" May 25).

Minuteman supporter Brook "The Watchdog" Young, whom Huitzilopochtli claims attacked him with pepper spray at a September protest in Simi Valley, declined by e-mail to be interviewed by the Weekly.

"Of all the things in Southern California you could write about, you've chosen Naui [Huitzilopochtli]? You're really scraping the bottom," he wrote. "I guess the OC Weekly has to have something to fill the pages between the liposuction and escort advertisements."


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: borders; ca; illegals; minutemen
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1 posted on 01/18/2008 6:55:52 AM PST by forkinsocket
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To: forkinsocket

So in the end what kind of evidence does he have?


2 posted on 01/18/2008 7:01:17 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: ontap

Well, he has the police report he filed about the incident...

Oh wait, he didn’t file one.


3 posted on 01/18/2008 7:07:10 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: forkinsocket

We all know the police wouldn’t harass someone videotaping an arrest.

This guy must be lying.


4 posted on 01/18/2008 7:11:00 AM PST by live+let_live
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To: forkinsocket
Huitzilopochtli, who says he often protests for the rights of indigenous people

in·dig·e·nous - adjective
originating in and characteristic of a particular region or country; native

That would seem to disqualify people who snuck in across a border, wouldn't it?

5 posted on 01/18/2008 7:16:51 AM PST by tx_eggman ("they want to be judged on their intentions, not their results" - libtards official motto)
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To: forkinsocket
ACLU of Southern California staff attorney Peter Bibring, who specializes in police actions, says erasing the video was clearly against the law. "There's no circumstance under which erasing the video would be legal," he says.

The blind squirrels at the ACLU actually found a nut this time. I agree with them for once.

Garden Grove Police Department spokesman Lieutenant Todd Elgin doesn't deny Huitzilopochtli's version of events, but he does say that the officer didn't know how to work the camera and erased the video by mistake.

I doubt that. It is very difficult to erase something without getting the "Are you sure you want to erase this?" question. If a suspect did that the cops would nail him for interfering with an investigation and destruction of evidence.

6 posted on 01/18/2008 7:19:18 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Rattenschadenfreude: joy at a Democrat's pain, especially Hillary's pain caused by Obama.)
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To: live+let_live
We all know the police wouldn’t harass someone videotaping an arrest.

This guy must be lying.

LOL

Laws and freedom are not for the little people, in this case the cops decide what the law was and did so illegally. Nothing more than a bunch of thugs.

7 posted on 01/18/2008 8:01:51 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: forkinsocket
Huitzilopochtli, who says he often protests for the rights of indigenous people, first got the idea to start filming such events after he was caught on film, he says

LOL! One of the "indigenous people" the Mexican elite despise so much. Rather than fix things in Mexico he protests here. I'm sure the irony is lost on such a pinhead.

8 posted on 01/18/2008 8:10:38 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Lawyer Jay Grodner stands accused of keying a Marine's car because he hates the military.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Huitzilopochtli is one of my favorite dipping sauces at Buffalo Wild Wings. A little spicy for my fiance, though.


9 posted on 01/18/2008 8:38:50 AM PST by -=SoylentSquirrel=- (I'm really made of people!)
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To: -=SoylentSquirrel=-
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10 posted on 01/18/2008 8:40:13 AM PST by -=SoylentSquirrel=- (I'm really made of people!)
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To: org.whodat

We all want freedom, but not for people who disagree with us.

‘I might hate what you say, but I’ll fight to the death to defend your right to say it...’ (Not the exact quote, but close enough)

Living in a free country is hard work. Maybe that’s why freedom doesn’t last long.


11 posted on 01/18/2008 8:54:35 AM PST by live+let_live
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To: org.whodat
Laws and freedom are not for the little people, in this case the cops decide what the law was and did so illegally. Nothing more than a bunch of thugs.

Yup. Even though I personally detest the slimy leftist, what the cops did wasn't justified. When they act like gang members, they deserve to be called on it. 

12 posted on 01/18/2008 9:15:48 AM PST by zeugma (Hillary! - America's Ex-Wife!)
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To: forkinsocket
Garden Grove Police Department spokesman Lieutenant Todd Elgin doesn't deny Huitzilopochtli's version of events, but he does say that the officer didn't know how to work the camera and erased the video by mistake.

What was the officer doing 'working' the camera to begin with? It clearly wasn't a weapon, so he had no business monkeying with it, particularly if, as they admit, he had no idea what he was doing. Accidental erasure or not, the cop was in the wrong.

13 posted on 01/18/2008 10:09:25 AM PST by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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