Posted on 01/18/2008 7:19:06 AM PST by freespirited
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We’ve reached the tipping point where the stupids are the majority.
We’ll all be safe in the prison state.
Killing a bunch of people in retaliation for my death is not my definition of security. Getting the bad guys before they can kill me, that's security.
That’s a loaded deck. The government can pretty well guarantee you don’t have any privacy, but they can’t guarantee your safety.
I guess you really don't understand how it all works. You are free when you can go where you want to go and do what you want to do. Lewis and Clark or the mountain men were truely free, but in constant danger. Unregulated, but responsible for their own defense. (Capable of their own defense as well.)
***Conversely, if you’re free and not safe, then you’re not really free.***
Presuming you are right for the moment....
I will still walk with my head up as a free man, working to secure my safety. I am unwilling to trade freedom for security.
“My religious belief teaches me to feel as safe in battle as in bed. God has fixed the time for my death. I do not concern myself about that, but to always be ready, no matter when it may overtake me.” ~ Stonewall Jackson, Confederate General & fellow Calvinist Christian.
That bears repeating, loudly.
Why does security and private have to be opposite things. If we did a better job at the borders we wouldn’t have to be comprimised our privacy as much.
Exactly! In fact, the Sheriff of the county I live in said as much to me personally. He basically said he would appreciate it if those of us who live here in the woods would do what was necessary to take care of ourselves....
Calling 911 where I live is a complete waste of time. You'd be better served to just call the coroner.....
It takes one to do the other.
While I'm not sure how this would really play out, one could argue that had random passengers been allowed to carry firearms, 9/11 might not have happened.
I’m plenty safe if the government does not impede my ability to keep myself safe.
I trust the ID Act less when the argument supporting it is posed as a question of More secure or more privacy. I suspect those who are intentionally planning terrorist acts will accommodate themselves to provide whatever ID is required, simply as another task in order to perform their act of terrorism.
IMHO, the same argument could be held if the law mandated everybody carry elephant guns to the bathroom. Since you don’t see elephants or tigers in the bathroom when somebody carried their elephant gun in there, it must be the proper level of security.
51% of the population are incredibly stupid.
That day is long past.
Freedom and privacy are different concepts in my book. One can give up some privacy and still have a great deal of freedom.
Technically, I think we have all given up some of our privacy with the passing of the Patriot Act. I haven't felt that I am no longer free.
Which we are doing, on a massive scale.
Government buildings? What about my apartment building? What about my office building? What about the mall? What about the supermarket?
A driver's license isn't safety. It's not going to prevent illegals from crossing the border; they'll still have tax-free wages and benefits to motivate them. It's not going to prevent a guy from loading a car with explosives and parking it on a street in a large city; I'll guarantee he won't have a driver's license, because there's something else motivating him.
Sometime during the last year an Australian citizen signed up for a pro-2A bulletin board I'm a member of, to tell all of us how backwards and selfish we were for wanting to own guns, and that they should be summarily outlawed for private use and left in the hands of the government and police. My question to him was, "How?"
It's easy to pound your fist on a table and say something should be done. But then comes the doing of it. Nobody much thinks about that part, and what the real cost might be.
Too much "it ain't my job" going around these days. That's why shiny, sparkly trinkets like this even get consideration.
***Freedom and privacy are different concepts in my book. One can give up some privacy and still have a great deal of freedom.***
Not really. Besides, give up your privacy and your freedom, such as it is, will follow. This is why, the Founding Fathers felt it so important that we be free from government intrusion and free from being forced to give up our “papers” (thoughts) without a warrant by the government.
If you, really don’t think that freedom and privacy are inseperably linked, then try living in a glass house.
BTW, I can’t stand the Patriot Act. Wire taps without a warrant.... WRONG!!!
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