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Will Glen Johnson (at AP) Get The Last Laugh? (Romney and Lobbyists)
Captain's Quarters ^ | Jan. 19, 2008 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 01/19/2008 7:29:06 AM PST by jdm

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To: Hoodat
You condemn Romney for allowing a lobbyist to work for his campaign, while at the same time support a candidate who is actually a lobbyist.

Fred isn't being hypocritical about it though. He defended his career as a lobbyist.

I don't have a problem with lobbyists, but politicians shouldn't be using them as the boogeyman when in fact they create the very conditions that allow lobbying to become a necessity.

21 posted on 01/19/2008 8:00:55 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GIANT SUCKING SOUND AT LAMBEAU FIELD)
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To: Mojave
AP reporter Johnson is right. He caught Romney red-handed.

BS, AP reproter Johnson is a lobbyist for the left wing in America. Neither he nor you know what the rest of that sentence was going to be.

The author has one thing right though, Romney should have told Johnson to read the First Amendment and kiss his ass rather than arguing with the leftist putz about the influence of the evil lobbysists on the body politic.

22 posted on 01/19/2008 8:01:10 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Colofornian
Let me guess, you're a subject-changer right (whenever the MSM catches Romney in yet another lie)

Subject changer? Heavens no. I was simply pointing out an egregious example of blinding hypocrisy. As for the subject, what was the lie that Romney allegedly told? Please provide the exact quote.

23 posted on 01/19/2008 8:01:28 AM PST by Hoodat (The whole point of the Conservative Movement is to gain converts, not demonize them.)
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To: Mojave
And Romney said "tied", not "run". He's not just parsing his remark, he's falsifying it.

Give him time, he'll have another death-bed conversion.

24 posted on 01/19/2008 8:02:10 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GIANT SUCKING SOUND AT LAMBEAU FIELD)
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To: Hoodat

It depends on what the meaning of the word “is” is.


25 posted on 01/19/2008 8:03:36 AM PST by nhoward14 (Fred Thompson will get it DUN DUN in 2008!)
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To: Colofornian
A better analogy would be that you raise money from the bank to run your business. Does the bank run your business? It never ran mine but that's exactly what you are claiming in your hybrid analogy that the leftist loon Johnson would embrace with both arms.

I never thought I'd see the day when Boston Globeites, Johnson, were supported over Republicans here at FR.

Live long enough and you see anything I suppose.

26 posted on 01/19/2008 8:05:07 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jdm

The Conservative ones are...

Except for Duncan folks of course...


27 posted on 01/19/2008 8:07:12 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Mike Huckabee, Tithing via Taxation, the Christian Democrat way...)
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To: jwalsh07
I never thought I'd see the day when Boston Globeites, Johnson, were supported over Republicans here at FR.

Sad, isn't it?

28 posted on 01/19/2008 8:09:23 AM PST by Hoodat (The whole point of the Conservative Movement is to gain converts, not demonize them.)
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To: jwalsh07
“I don’t have lobbyists that are TIED to my –”

Neither he nor you know what the rest of that sentence was going to be.

I'm waiting for one of the Romney shills to fill it in. My front porch? My car bumper? My talking points writing staff?

29 posted on 01/19/2008 8:10:53 AM PST by Mojave
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To: jdm

So what? All you have done is point what all politicians rely on. That is ALL! Can Government run without them, no. Do they have a legitimate function, yes. Do some overstep, yes and some do not. But it is the way it is. Are there criminal activity in some, yes. Are there good and important lobbyist, yes.


30 posted on 01/19/2008 8:11:51 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

that may be true, but that’s not what the AP reporter issue was about. the ap reporter said he had a lobbyist running his campaign, which is false.


31 posted on 01/19/2008 8:12:29 AM PST by enough_idiocy (Thompson/Romney '08)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Give him time, he'll have another death-bed conversion.

Maybe Romney can do a Clinton. Maybe something like: "I did not have ties with those lobbyists, they had ties with me."

32 posted on 01/19/2008 8:15:02 AM PST by Mojave
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I understand your concern. However, accepting help from lobbyists is not the same as being beholden to lobbyists. Mitt Romney is a self-made man. He is not encumbered with the financial restrictions that would allow a lobbyist to gain a controlling influence over him.


33 posted on 01/19/2008 8:16:47 AM PST by Hoodat (The whole point of the Conservative Movement is to gain converts, not demonize them.)
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To: enough_idiocy

Romney was lying about the “running” part too.

From the Associated Press
January 18, 2008

COLUMBIA, S.C. — Republican Mitt Romney said Thursday he could govern in the country’s best interest because “I don’t have lobbyists running my campaign.” But Washington insiders are on his senior staff and registered lobbyists are top advisors.

One advisor, Ron Kaufman, chairman of Washington-based Dutko Worldwide, regularly sits across the aisle from Romney on his campaign plane, participates in debate strategy sessions and last week accompanied Romney to a lunch in Myrtle Beach, S.C., with Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.).

Another advisor, former Rep. Vin Weber (R-Minn.), is chairman of Romney’s policy committee. He also is chief executive of Clark & Weinstock, and his corporate biography says he “provides strategic advice to institutions with matters before the legislative and executive branches of the federal government.”

A third advisor, former Sen. Jim Talent (R-Mo.), who was at Romney’s victory party in Michigan on Tuesday, is co-chairman of Fleishman-Hillard Government Relations and also is a registered lobbyist, according to federal records compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics.


34 posted on 01/19/2008 8:22:14 AM PST by Mojave
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To: Mojave
"From the Associated Press"

That from your new best friend Glen Johnson?

35 posted on 01/19/2008 8:24:05 AM PST by frankenMonkey (101st Army Dad)
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To: Hoodat
I think the article has a point. Romney criticizes MCCain for lobbyists who raise money for him. Yet Romney apparently does likewise.
36 posted on 01/19/2008 8:24:55 AM PST by tortdog
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To: tortdog

If that’s the case, then Romney certainly should have worded it better. The difference being that McCain has spent two decades in the Senate deeply enmeshed in lobbyist politics while Romney has not. However, I would definitely be interested to know if there is any evidence to indicate that any of these lobbyists have undue influence over Romney.


37 posted on 01/19/2008 8:34:11 AM PST by Hoodat (The whole point of the Conservative Movement is to gain converts, not demonize them.)
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To: jwalsh07
I never thought I'd see the day when Boston Globeites, Johnson, were supported over Republicans here at FR.

When a "Globeite" is right, I'm willing to admit it. Liberals are not always wrong, nor are "Republicans" always right. Maybe Romney wins some style points but Johnson wins big on substance. No amount of word parsing is going to change that.

As far as I am concerned, real conservatives do not have a dog in this fight.

38 posted on 01/19/2008 8:37:38 AM PST by CommerceComet (Mitt Romney: boldly saying whatever the audience wants to hear.)
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To: frankenMonkey
"From the Associated Press"

No rebuttal to the published facts, naturally. Waiting for the new talking points fax?

39 posted on 01/19/2008 8:39:47 AM PST by Mojave
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To: jdm

Another lie by the Mitt man. He is one scary candidate.


40 posted on 01/19/2008 8:40:07 AM PST by Afronaut (Press 2 for English - Thanks Mr. President !)
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