[ImpBill]

Some interesting thoughts and facts.

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[ImpBill]

I did find this an interesting read, received this evening from a like minded conservative neighbor.

Perhaps you might have some thoughts and know of others who might as well.

[Congressman Billybob]

This Tyler stuff is a fraud. There is no source for the preliminary comments in this article. Sounds good, might be correct, has no source.

Congressman Billybob

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[GovernmentIsTheProblem]

“About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier”

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/tyler.asp

Urban myth.

As are the stats.

[denydenydeny]

Interesting thoughts (which I agree with) but it’s a total hoax. There is no such person as “Alexander Tyler.”

[mek1959]

Ping

[july4thfreedomfoundation]

Thank God for the Second Amendment, and our wise Founding Fathers who intended the right to keep and bear arms as a means of giving the people a way to fight a tyrannical government.

[wintertime]

then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.

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This is why we have the Second Amendment.

[vbmoneyspender]

The Athenian ‘Republic’?

[mad puppy]

How long?

Given our current rate of sending huge wealth to countries that want to kill us...given our unwillingness to defend our own borders....given that our economy is about to suffer (again) due primarily to greed...give the rate of jobs being sent overseas....and given that the US may very well elect a Liberal (either an R or a D)....my answer is:

not long.

[BenLurkin]

It’s pretty much over now. When the Senate failed to remove a perjurer from the White House it became clear that our political system is not much more than a sham.

[ProfessorGage]

“Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy that did not commit suicide.”
John Adams

[WorkingClassFilth]

Essentially true. We are on borrowed time. Principle does matter, and if Principle is honored in this election, we will lose. Still, it is better to do the righteous thing and go down with honor than to serve expediency and live in a reduced state.

[muir_redwoods]

I had to go to the local mall today. I easily saw a few thousand people. I saw very few that seemed to me to be the sort that could have founded this country. I saw consumers, not producers, to my eyes anyway.

I despair for my country. We are doomed because we have become lazy, soft and fat and most of us are only interested in the candidate who will open the tap the widest so we can get the most from the public till. It's hard to look at the crowds of slack-jawed shoppers and see a revolutionary people capable of founding a republic.

Sermon over

[Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus]

If Fred doesn’t win in the end....we have a lot less time than we would otherwise.

[elkfersupper]

I've been saying that we're done for the last 10 years or so.

The only thing I regret is that I didn't recognize it sooner.

I feel sorry for my kids and grandkids.

I trained and am training both in the exercise of freedom and liberty, they simply have no place to practice it.

[BenLurkin]

May I add as well that when a major political party ran for President a candidate who years earlier had openly sided against America during a time of war, it became clear that a terrible poison has been introduced into our body politic.

[umgud]

HOW LONG DOES THE USA HAVE?

There is a simple political answer to this.

If we elect a dem or a pro-amnesty RINO, we will see many 10's of millions of new dem voters over a short period of time. So many, that the time to the end will be greatly reduced.

[BenLurkin]

May I add as well that when a major political party ran for President a candidate who years earlier had openly sided against America during a time of war, it became clear that a terrible poison has been introduced into our body politic.

[NRA2BFree]

How Long Does the USA have?

As soon as the corrupt politicians get their way, we will become CANAMEX, and 'it's over!'

[oldbrowser]

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.

I have seen a great many of these illegals and there are many entrepreneurs among them. I think many of them have come here for opportunity not handouts. I see many older illegals out on the street selling fruit or flowers. Many street corners has an illegal and an American, the illegal is selling fruit and the American is asking for a handout.

If anything our government is corrupting the illegals into the welfare system.