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Rush-Declare your Support for Fred in Florida (Fred Needs to Boost-Vanity)
My Frustration ^ | awake-n-angry

Posted on 01/19/2008 7:33:26 PM PST by awake-n-angry

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To: El Gato

Rush has already said that neither McCain nor Huckabee can win in the general election. Conservatives will stay home.

I agree, and will be one of those sitting this one out. ( If either of those two wins/steals/lies their way into the nomination)


41 posted on 01/19/2008 8:16:17 PM PST by PalmettoMason (Ted Kennedy is "one of the most principled men I've ever met." Lindsay Graham)
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To: ConservativeDude
Willard is a flip-flopping empty suit.

Half of the Evangelicals will not vote for him.

The Rodent Party will beat him like a rented mule.

42 posted on 01/19/2008 8:18:11 PM PST by Little_GTO
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To: rintense

Mittens. Hmumpph

Mrs. MWT is sexually satisfied. Ergo, she distains Romney and like Fred.

-— Mrs. MWT


43 posted on 01/19/2008 8:18:32 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: Bosco
Instead of the constant drum-beat of Fred, Fred, Fred on FR, it should have been the feet hitting the pavement in the real world. For gosh sake, it's 60-some percent saturation here on FR. You've won. You should have moved to the areas where it's 15% for Fred - which at this point appears to be a lot of places.

That much has been clear for a long time. If FR was the real world, we'd be talking about President Keyes right now.

Let's face it, FR gets no respect at election time because we generally DON'T get involved in our local political process. We just sit around here p!ssing and moaning about everything.

Personally, the political aspect of FR interests me a lot less than the religion board and the archaeology, science, and cryptozoology threads. That's why I keep coming back.

Politics is so pathetically ephemeral, after all.
44 posted on 01/19/2008 8:19:25 PM PST by Antoninus ("Make all the promises you have to." --Mitt Romney)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Zing!


45 posted on 01/19/2008 8:19:53 PM PST by rintense (Thompson / Hunter 2008!)
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To: Parley Baer

Rush is in the tank for Willard.


46 posted on 01/19/2008 8:20:55 PM PST by Little_GTO
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To: ConservativeDude
We have to unite NOW behind Romney

UH no, actually we don't and no self respecting conservative with any shred of integrity would vote for WILLARD under any circumstances.

47 posted on 01/19/2008 8:21:46 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: elizabetty
"At worst, Romney will turn out to be a moderate Republican -- a high-IQ, articulate, moral, wildly successful, moderate Republican."

Unfortunately, that's where Ann went off the rails. Romney will do what "moderate" Republicans always do to the GOP--make them lap-dogs of the Democrats.

If you want an object lesson in what moderate Republican executives do to the party, look no further than the pathetic state of the GOP in NJ, NY, MA, and PA, all of which had "moderate" Republicans in office within the past decade. They may never have another one in our lifetimes.
48 posted on 01/19/2008 8:22:17 PM PST by Antoninus ("Make all the promises you have to." --Mitt Romney)
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To: ConservativeDude
We have to unite NOW behind Romney.

You unite behind Romney. I'll find a conservative to support--even if he's not in the GOP.
49 posted on 01/19/2008 8:23:19 PM PST by Antoninus ("Make all the promises you have to." --Mitt Romney)
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To: Bosco

I am just waiting on who to hold my nose while I vote to come to the forefront. It looks like my hopes were laid before Duncan Hunter, Fred Thompson, and Tennessee football the past couple of months and now its time for me to rethink my choices.


50 posted on 01/19/2008 8:27:30 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: awake-n-angry

Go, Fred.


51 posted on 01/19/2008 8:28:44 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: awake-n-angry

Rush says he doesn’t endorse during the Primaries. My question is: Why bother endorsing AFTER? Would anyone who watches Rush need to be told to vote for the Republican nominee and not the Democrat? I don’t understand the thinking. Will somebody please school me?


52 posted on 01/19/2008 8:31:14 PM PST by jnwest
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To: Salvation

“Go, Fred.”

Looks like you’ll get your wish.


53 posted on 01/19/2008 8:31:33 PM PST by BunkDetector
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To: HereInTheHeartland

“Fred never really got the boilers lit to push the ship away from the dock. His waiting to long to get in the race did him in. Big mistake.”

I don’t really think it was the wait. Remember how high his numbers were BEFORE he announced? True conservatives were waiting for someone they could support.

Fred’s been running his campaign from the back of the bus. This isn’t going to cut it in this day and age. You won’t win an election unless you organize a grassroots army to go house-to-house, to man phone banks, to blanket neighborhoods with literature, etc. Ed Gillespie and Ken Mehlman understood this and helped propel W to victory in 2000 and 2004. W wouldn’t have won either election without the well-organized, grassroots machine he had. Ed and Ken had every block in every precinct mapped out.

Fred’s few bus stops weren’t enough to carry the day in South Carolina, nor will they be in any other state.

I, for one, don’t think it’s too late. Remember we’ve only heard from 5 of 50 states. The MSM has marginalized Fred. He has to go to the people. Again, this means grassroots.

I’m ready for a pitchfork revolution. How ‘bout you?


54 posted on 01/19/2008 8:31:37 PM PST by freedom4me (No compromise w/ the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact w/ unrepentant wrong. --Churchill)
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To: Little_GTO
It's a pragmatic choice, I believe.

Not the best choice.

Rush thinks highly of Wm. Buckley and NR endorsed Romney. No small thing in his world.

Here it is for your convenience:

Many conservatives are finding it difficult to pick a presidential candidate. Each of the men running for the Republican nomination has strengths, and none has everything—all the traits, all the positions—we are looking for. Equally conservative analysts can reach, and have reached, different judgments in this matter. There are fine conservatives supporting each of these Republicans.

Our guiding principle has always been to select the most conservative viable candidate. In our judgment, that candidate is Mitt Romney, the former governor of Massachusetts. Unlike some other candidates in the race, Romney is a full-spectrum conservative: a supporter of free-market economics and limited government, moral causes such as the right to life and the preservation of marriage, and a foreign policy based on the national interest. While he has not talked much about the importance of resisting ethnic balkanization—none of the major candidates has—he supports enforcing the immigration laws and opposes amnesty. Those are important steps in the right direction.

Uniting the conservative coalition is not enough to win a presidential election, but it is a prerequisite for building on that coalition. Rudolph Giuliani did extraordinary work as mayor of New York and was inspirational on 9/11. But he and Mike Huckabee would pull apart the coalition from opposite ends: Giuliani alienating the social conservatives, and Huckabee the economic (and foreign-policy) conservatives. A Republican party that abandoned either limited government or moral standards would be much diminished in the service it could give the country.

Two other major candidates would be able to keep the coalition together, but have drawbacks of their own. John McCain is not as conservative as Romney. He sponsored and still champions a campaign-finance law that impinged on fundamental rights of political speech; he voted against the Bush tax cuts; he supported this year’s amnesty bill, although he now says he understands the need to control the border before doing anything else.

Despite all that and more, he is a hero with a record that is far more good than bad. He has been a strong and farsighted supporter of the Iraq War, and, in a trying political season for him, he has preserved and even enhanced his reputation for dignity and seriousness. There would be worse nominees for the GOP (see above). But McCain ran an ineffectual campaign for most of the year and is still paying for it.

Fred Thompson is as conservative as Romney, and has distinguished himself with serious proposals on Social Security, immigration, and defense. But Thompson has never run any large enterprise— and he has not run his campaign well, either. Conservatives were excited this spring to hear that he might enter the race, but have been disappointed by the reality. He has been fading in crucial early states. He has not yet passed the threshold test of establishing for voters that he truly wants to be president.

Romney is an intelligent, articulate, and accomplished former businessman and governor. At a time when voters yearn for competence and have soured on Washington because too often the Bush administration has not demonstrated it, Romney offers proven executive skill. He has demonstrated it in everything he has done in his professional life, and his tightly organized, disciplined campaign is no exception. He himself has shown impressive focus and energy.

It is true that he has less foreign-policy experience than Thompson and (especially) McCain, but he has more executive experience than both. Since almost all of the candidates have the same foreign-policy principles, what matters most is which candidate has the skills to execute that vision.

Like any Republican, he would have an uphill climb next fall. But he would be able to offer a persuasive outsider’s critique of Washington. His conservative accomplishments as governor showed that he can work with, and resist, a Democratic legislature. He knows that not every feature of the health-care plan he enacted in Massachusetts should be replicated nationally, but he can also speak with more authority than any of the other Republican candidates about this pressing issue. He would also have credibility on the economy, given his success as a businessman and a manager of the Olympics.

Some conservatives question his sincerity. It is true that he has reversed some of his positions. But we should be careful not to overstate how much he has changed. In 1994, when he tried to unseat Ted Kennedy, he ran against higher taxes and government- run health care, and for school choice, a balanced budget amendment, welfare reform, and “tougher measures to stop illegal immigration.” He was no Rockefeller Republican even then.

We believe that Romney is a natural ally of social conservatives. He speaks often about the toll of fatherlessness in this country. He may not have thought deeply about the political dimensions of social issues until, as governor, he was confronted with the cutting edge of social liberalism. No other Republican governor had to deal with both human cloning and court-imposed same-sex marriage. He was on the right side of both issues, and those battles seem to have made him see the stakes of a broad range of public-policy issues more clearly. He will work to put abortion on a path to extinction. Whatever the process by which he got where he is on marriage, judges, and life, we’re glad he is now on our side—and we trust him to stay there.

He still has some convincing to do with other conservatives. Romney has been plagued by the sense that his is a passionless, paint-by-the-numbers conservatism. If he is to win the nomination, he will have to show more of the kind of emotion and resolve he demonstrated in his College Station “Faith in America” speech.

For some people, Romney’s Mormonism is still a barrier. But we are not electing a pastor. The notion that he will somehow be controlled by Salt Lake City or engaged in evangelism for his church is outlandish. He deserves to be judged on his considerable merits as a potential president. As he argued in his College Station speech, his faith informs his values, which he has demonstrated in both the private and public sectors. In none of these cases have any specific doctrines of his church affected the quality of his leadership. Romney is an exemplary family man and a patriot whose character matches the high office to which he aspires.

More than the other primary candidates, Romney has President Bush’s virtues and avoids his flaws. His moral positions, and his instincts on taxes and foreign policy, are the same. But he is less inclined to federal activism, less tolerant of overspending, better able to defend conservative positions in debate, and more likely to demand performance from his subordinates. A winning combination, by our lights. In this most fluid and unpredictable Republican field, we vote for Mitt Romney.

55 posted on 01/19/2008 8:32:18 PM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: Bosco
And folks don't see it yet. It's group-think on this board and it's not matching reality.
Right there you lost me.

The last thing you could possible say about FreeRepublic is that we practice group-think.

We are the most well-informed, well-principled group of people on the web.

You might want to re-think your position.

You are well wide of the mark!
56 posted on 01/19/2008 8:35:23 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Ol' Sparky
One risks more than backing a sure losing candidate if one backs Romney; One risks losing one's integrity.

I prefer the word credibility, although integrity works too.

A lot of conservative icons have sold out. See my long post here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1956325/posts?page=251#251

And another post here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1956325/posts?page=332#332

57 posted on 01/19/2008 8:35:41 PM PST by Little_GTO
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To: Edward Watson
While I won't be supporting Romney - keep your powder dry.

Don't buy into the Media hype. McCain won South Carolina tonight with a whopping 33% of the vote - That means that 67% voted against him.

Of course 84% voted against my candidate, whom I will write in if he isn't on the ballot as well. Which really translates into I am no longer supporting the Republican party, at least for this election for President. But you shouldn't give up so easily if you are "for" Romney based upon principle.

58 posted on 01/19/2008 8:35:41 PM PST by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?" --Greg Adams--Brownsville, TX --On the other Front Line)
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To: awake-n-angry

Why would Rush waste any political influence capital he has on a hopeless cause? Rush didn’t become the giant he is by endorsing losers.


59 posted on 01/19/2008 8:37:46 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: elizabetty
I guess you prefer MittCare to HillaryCare.
60 posted on 01/19/2008 8:41:36 PM PST by Little_GTO
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