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'60 Minutes' Preempted This Sunday for Global Warming Hysteria
NewsBusters ^ | January 19, 2008 | Noel Sheppard

Posted on 01/19/2008 7:43:43 PM PST by CedarDave

Fortunately, most people will likely be watching the Giants-Packers game Sunday evening, and will therefore miss the one-sided hysteria.

However, for those that mysteriously don't switch channels after the Chargers-Patriots game, CBS will offer a special about global warming this Sunday instead of "60 Minutes."

How marvelous.

The CBS News website hysterically described this installment of "The Age of Warming":

Nowhere is the evidence of global warming as striking than near the earth's poles. CBS News correspondent Scott Pelley's report brings him to the top and the bottom of the world, where scientists point out the effects of the warming trend. He also speaks to NASA's top scientist studying climate, who says the Bush administration has restricted what he can say about global warming.

This teaser raises many important questions. For instance, will even one of the over 400 scientists that don't believe man is responsible for global warming be interviewed by Pelley? Or, will he exclusively talk to folks that are involved in advancing this yet unproven theory?

Will any of the scientific studies concerning historical ice levels in the Arctic and the Antarctic be sited, or just the satellite data for the past thirty years?

Assuming the top NASA scientist Pelley will be speaking to is the controversial head of the Goddard Institute for Space Studies James Hansen, will he be asked about his connection to George Soros? Or that the GISS predicted an ice age back in 1971? Or that Hansen's organization made a huge error in calculating temperatures this decade that was uncovered by Climate Audit's Stephen McIntyre?

~~snip~~

Or, will this installment be exclusively filled with one-sided information on this controversial subject with not one shred of balance for the viewer?

Yes, sadly, these were all rhetorical questions.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 60minutes; agw; cbs; globalwarming; newsbusters; seebs; seebsnews
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To: westmichman
By the same logic, you could say that oil, coal, and natural gas are not net contributors either.

That's not great logic, because the carbon in plant biomass was recently removed from the atmosphere (you could stretch this back a few hundred years for the longest lived plants), while fossil fuels go back millions of years, and that carbon was effectively removed from the Earth system until human activities "reactivated" it.

61 posted on 01/22/2008 11:33:07 AM PST by cogitator
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To: westmichman
If Co2 levels go up, plants grow faster, removing more Co2 from the air and returning more oxygen for us to breathe.

Only to a point; the CO2 fertilization effect apparently is self-limiting, and we've got plenty of oxygen.

So, what is the problem with higher C02 levels? It can’t trap heat, because it is colorless and odorless.

It absorbs in the IR; it's not "colorless" in the infrared range.

62 posted on 01/22/2008 11:34:41 AM PST by cogitator
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To: CedarDave

ping


63 posted on 01/22/2008 11:48:06 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: cogitator

Does that, then mean that current schemes to sequester it on site is just creating an even bigger problem down the road?


64 posted on 01/22/2008 11:55:33 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: cogitator

At what level is more CO2 less effective or diminishes to a no net-return point, do you know?


65 posted on 01/22/2008 11:57:55 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Old Professer
Does that, then mean that current schemes to sequester it on site is just creating an even bigger problem down the road?

That depends on how long the duration of effective sequestration is.

66 posted on 01/22/2008 12:33:41 PM PST by cogitator
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To: Old Professer
My comment was based partly on this:

Climate myths: Higher CO2 levels will boost plant growth and food production

"Studies of past climate changes suggest the land and oceans start releasing more CO2 than they absorb as the planet warms. The latest IPCC report concludes that the terrestrial biosphere will become a source rather than a sink of carbon before the end of the century."

and this:

Higher Carbon Dioxide Lack Of Nitrogen Limit Plant Growth

The main self-limiting factor is nutrients; if the CO2 fertilization effect enhances plant growth, then the augmented growth requires more nutrients, which become depleted from the soils faster, and then the growth slows down.

67 posted on 01/22/2008 1:02:27 PM PST by cogitator
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To: cogitator

Guess that’s why the securities (stocks) of fertilizer producers have been on a tear. (TNH, MOS, & etc.)

Maybe the reason CO2 levels are up is because they are taking nitrogen from the air and putting it in fertilizer and liquid nitrogen storage.

I just can’t believe that 380ppm of CO2 in the air causes global warming. This is .000038% of the total. I believe that other more absorbent substances would be much more of a trapping mechanism for heat. Like dust, water vapor, particulates from smoke, and the like.


68 posted on 01/22/2008 1:59:21 PM PST by westmichman ( God said: "They cry 'peace! peace!' but there is no peace. Jeremiah 6:14)
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To: westmichman
I just can’t believe that 380ppm of CO2 in the air causes global warming. This is .000038% of the total. I believe that other more absorbent substances would be much more of a trapping mechanism for heat. Like dust, water vapor, particulates from smoke, and the like.

(Picture me smiling bemusedly.) Maybe you can't believe that. Well... try to visualize how tenuous the atmosphere is in the stratosphere. Visualize how few molecules of ozone are contained in a given volume of the stratosphere. Realize that the Sun is irradiating every square centimeter of the atmosphere (on the lighted side, of course) with the full spectrum of solar radiation, including UV. Realize how much UV those widely dispersed ozone molecules absorb.

Still believe that only a little bit of CO2 can't absorb significant amounts of IR radiation?

Dust aerosols and other aerosols (soot) actually block incoming radiation, acting as a cooling factor, but soot may actually directly absorb incoming IR from the Sun, which is a warming factor. Water vapor is a greenhouse gas and also absorbs in the IR.

69 posted on 01/22/2008 3:11:35 PM PST by cogitator
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To: CedarDave

I saw the info review on my TIVO and laugh as I pulled up a program I saved and ran through the commercials.


70 posted on 01/22/2008 3:14:51 PM PST by toddlintown (Building More Highways For Children---Huckleberry Talking Point)
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To: cogitator

Glad I could make you smile.
Just so you know, I purposely said that 380 ppm = .000038%
knowing that it is actually .0038% to see if you would catch my (error).
I guess you either missed it or were too nice to tell me I was wrong. :>)


71 posted on 01/22/2008 3:40:24 PM PST by westmichman ( God said: "They cry 'peace! peace!' but there is no peace. Jeremiah 6:14)
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To: westmichman

Check that- 380ppm = .038%


72 posted on 01/22/2008 5:57:09 PM PST by westmichman ( God said: "They cry 'peace! peace!' but there is no peace. Jeremiah 6:14)
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To: CedarDave

Scientist are concerned with their legacy.

What needs to be created is a database of government funding and outrageous studies/claims. Unlike the ice age scam of the 1970’s, this time there will be the list of shame. Ideally you’d be able to sort for the most absurd, you know, like 120k to study the effects of climate change on the hedge hogs.

That way, we won’t have an ice age threat again in another 40 years.


73 posted on 01/23/2008 4:20:43 PM PST by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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