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To: CedarDave

Have you heard this science teacher’s lectures on You Tube? He has a whole series of them. Dh is watching them right now and finding problems with the guy’s logic.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zORv8wwiadQ


8 posted on 01/19/2008 7:53:40 PM PST by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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To: ChocChipCookie
Watched the first video and liked his idea of column and rows. However, the elephant in the kitchen is not whether we take action or not. After all, this isn't about raising the levee a couple of feet to prevent the flood; we know that if we keep raising it enough it will stop the flood. Then the question is how much we raise it and at what cost. Risk management takes effect here, cost benefit and all that.

With us taking action against global warming, its really not the same. Taking action is just as likely, or more than likely, to have no effect on global warming except for lowering the money in our pocketbooks. Now throw in the fact that third world countries are at best giving only lip service to global warming or at worst building more coal fired power plants to spew even more CO2 and any action we would take would not help a bit to contain global warming.

For me its a triple whammy NOT to take action. First, and this will become more apparent in the next few years if not earlier, human caused CO2 increases are not having an effect on climate; CO2 is a lagging indicator of warming, not a leading indicator. And as a greenhouse gas, it is a minor, very minor player.

Second, if you accept that CO2 is all the things I say it isn't, what action do you take? Do we humans believe the cork can be put back in the bottle? How do we reverse human progress, what sort of measurements can you make that will demonstrate that whatever action we take will make any difference no matter how extensive or expensive? Ban all CO2 sources? Reduce them by 50, 60, 80%? What do we do? You say we must do something!! But what? And what are the consequences of taking such action? What is the likelihood of being successful or the cost given other demands for our resources? Carbon credits are a scam, carbon sequestration may not be practicable, etc. So what do we do?

Finally, and my third reason for not taking action, is why should we deprive ourselves of living and enjoying our current lifestyle when the rest of the world is giving only lip service to the problem? Are we so guilt ridden that we must now sacrifice what we have gained so that other countries can continue to ignore international norms and go on their merry way irrespective of the consequences? The bleeding heart libs would say yes and make us sacrifice for their sense of guilt. I say not, especially given that the premise of the entire global warming scenario is incorrect.

Now, as regards the YouTube scientist, I suggest you take a look at this four-part presentation by Dr. Carter from Australia. He goes over the science and concludes its all a scam. He's persuasive and his audience is one of fellow scientists not arm waving chicken littles.

Climate Change - Is CO2 the cause? - Pt 1 of 4

Climate Change - Is CO2 the cause? - Pt 2 of 4

Climate Change - Is CO2 the cause? - Pt 3 of 4

Climate Change - Is CO2 the cause? - Pt 4 of 4

21 posted on 01/19/2008 9:15:22 PM PST by CedarDave (The early primaries are port-o-potties rented to the left to pee in the conservative hot tub)
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