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To: MNJohnnie

“Huckabee must be stopped so McCain can be handed the nomination? Not a chance. Your cure is worse then the disease. With Huck we at least get good Judges. With McCain we get de nada. Just like we have for the last 8 years.”

We will get higher taxes with Huckabee and his support of the war is questionable.

With McCain we will continue to fight and win the war and fiscal responsibility. In addition, McCain will appoint good judges, he has said he would appoint a judge like Alito.

Not to mention, who is more likely to push a conservative judge through the Dem controlled Senate? Just because Huckabee were to appoint someone the libs would assume the worst and do their best to Bork the nominee. McCain would be better at selling a nominee to the Dems than Huckabee.


67 posted on 01/19/2008 8:35:22 PM PST by tj21807
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To: tj21807

Agree. Other than loony Ron Paul, Huckabee is the weakest of the Republican candidates on national defense.


71 posted on 01/19/2008 8:38:16 PM PST by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: tj21807
With Huck we at least get good Judges. With McCain we get de nada.

Maybe that much is true. Though he is loathed here, I think Rudy would be a more honest POTUS than Huck. If he too would nominate judges who do not make law, I could live with him.

74 posted on 01/19/2008 8:42:19 PM PST by outofstyle (My Ride's Here)
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To: tj21807

No Conservative should ever consider voting for McCain. We worry the others will betray us. We know McCain will betray us. Look at his record for the last 8 years? Been nothing but betrayal and obstruction.

With any of the other canidates we have a seat at the table. We know John McCain will never listen to us on anything.

With McCain Conservatives would get maybe 10%. That would not be worth the enormous long term damage McCain would do to both the GOP and the Conservative Movement. With a McCain Administration we would have a mislabeled “Conservative” Administration pushing Democrat Party polices while the GOP took all the political fall out of the consequences of those disastrous decisions.

Just what could Conservatives expect to get from a McCain Administration? Based on McCain’s record for the last 8 years, we could expect to get tough talk on foreign policy and spending with no real action on any issue.

Do people forget the Democrats trying to get McCain to flip party’s in Jan 2006? Forget that Dems wanted McCain as their VP candidate in 2004?

How quickly the supposed Conservatives for McCain forget McCain’s political record. From Tax-cuts to the War to Judges McCain’s whole strategy has been to be as Liberal as possible and stay in the GOP.

Politically there is very little difference between Hillary and McCain. You get minor variations on this and that issue, like abortion, but over all McCain and Clinton share the same political philosophical outlook

McCain has done nothing for the Conservative movement in 8 years. While talking a good game on spending, he has done nothing. This is particularly galling considering all the issues CFR, Judges, Immigration Anti Torture Amendment-Gang of 14 etc etc etc issues which McCain was more then willing to throw his weight behind an issues to get legislation passed.

McCain has actively worked against the Conservatives on Social issues, on the WOT, on Iraq, on Gitmo, against Rummy, on Immigration and on Judges, on Global Warming etc etc etc etc etc. McCain has far more in common with Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama then he does with any Conservative.

Funny how the Talking Heads miss this. Out of 49 Republican Senators McCain has been ranked 45th by the American Conservative Union for his voting record!

McCain would be the worse of both worlds. A mislabeled “Conservative” Administration actively advancing the Democrat Party’s agenda while knifing Conservatives in the back daily. You could even count on a McCain Administration appointing Leftist Judges in order to avoid fighting with the Democrats in the US Senate.

Tough on Foreign Policy? You think Mr “Close Gitmo and extend the same legal protections US Citizens have to the terrorists” McCain is going to have a “tough” foreign policy? The father of the Baker Commission and the plan to surrender Iraq to Iran and Syria is “strong on Foreign Policy”? Not based on his recored. The wrost thing that a McCain Administration would do is it would fracture the few remaining GOP Congress critters into pro and anti McCain factions. McCain would be the worst of all world politically for the Conservatives.

At least with a Democrat Leftist Administration, as opposed to a McCain Leftist with a GOP Label Administration, the Democrats would get all the political fall out of their disastrous political decisions and the GOP would unite in fighting them. The worst of all possible worlds for Conservatives in 2008 would be McCain getting elected President.


81 posted on 01/19/2008 8:45:43 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Instead of "Swift Boaters", 2008 Democrats have "Short Bussers"-Freeper Sax)
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To: tj21807
***ALERT***ALERT***ALERT!!!***

***REALITY FACING TIME!!!****

Thank God a few people on here are still sane and able to face an imperfect reality with good, common sense and cold, hard logic.

When I walk into the booth next November I will pull the lever for McCain with glee and much enthusiasm against The Beastess. I’ll die before I will do anything that helps her gain power.

All this gnashing of teeth and stamping of feet on here is really unseemly.

141 posted on 01/19/2008 9:28:37 PM PST by DogandPonyShow (America, the Light of the World.)
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