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To: Yehuda
BS.

"full withdrawal from occupied Palestinian, Syrian and Lebanese land"

THAT MEANS ALL OF ISRAEL.

There is not one pali or syrian map, flag or protocol that does not state that ALL OF ISRAEL is on muslim land.

Look up "israel "phased plan."

Those are LEFTIST Israeli policy planners).

In return forgiving up the Golan, Israel allows itself to be shelled into destruction, as well as losing early warning radar.

While you are at it, please be sure and show the benefits of giving up Gaza....
The arab countries would probably like cookies and ponies for everybody too. It doesn't mean they'll get them. Their maps are equally meaningful.

Jordan and Egypt wanted the same thing 30 years ago. However the reality of the situation is quite different now isn't it?

My sources are hardly leftist unless you consider anybody to the left of the National Union "left wing".

The Golan mattered 20 years ago, not now. Any deal on the Golan will come with access to US satellite data, eliminating the need for radar, and demilitarized zones farther into Syria in order to limit artillery. Although artillery is less important in the current age of missiles. So your argument doesn't work.

Withdrawing from Gaza also served its purpose(to its implementers, not that I necessarily agree morally), removing Israeli responsibility from a demographic timebomb for the relatively cheap price of missiles in Sderot(cheap because the residents of Sderot are majority new residents of Israel and poor, it's not like missiles are falling on Olmert's house).

What many "defenders" of Israel don't understand is that Israel's worst enemy is not the arab states but Palestinian demographics. That's why the Israeli government is desperate for a two-state solution before a "one-state" solution is imposed on Israel externally.
75 posted on 01/20/2008 6:48:49 PM PST by ketsu
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