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Critically ill [Canadian] patients rushed to U.S. for care
Globe and Mail ^ | Jan 19, 2008

Posted on 01/20/2008 10:34:27 AM PST by John Jorsett

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To: nicmarlo

You are right. No one will face the root of the real problem head on.


41 posted on 01/20/2008 7:37:29 PM PST by yorkie
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To: yorkie

Nope...it’ll never, ever happen. Too late and too far gone.

Hasta la vista, America.


42 posted on 01/20/2008 7:38:41 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: org.whodat
So you agree with me that the problem is not doctors and hospitals, but forced restriction of the free market.

I am intentionally NOT a member of the AMA as it is most certainly fascist. However, you give it far more credit than it deserves as a force destroying the free market in medicine. It is not the AMA, but the US Government, with all its minions including the several United States of America, who hold the market hostage by illegally confiscating tax money and refusing to return it unless States “comply,” which by force has distorted the free market in medicine. And by insurance regulations. And by deceptions like taxing most medical expenses unless an employer provides them. The AMA is just a weak little pawn of those fascists. Any supposed lack of doctors and lack of hospitals because of regulation of medical schools and hospitals (again not done by the AMA, but by the Feds and coerced states) is not what makes medical costs high anyway.

The good guys (who by the way, include me as a member) sued Hillary and her secret task force in 1993 and were the most important medical organization in opening eyes about the Rat fascist plans are the AAPS (Association of American Physicians and Surgeons). Check out the AAPS for a Freep-o-licious breath of fresh air.

Controlling physicians is widely acknowledged to be more difficult than herding cats, and it drive the fascists crazy, and thank goodness, or else fascism in medicine would be much further advanced, and you would be scapegoating physicians and hospitals even more inappropriately.

43 posted on 01/20/2008 8:52:44 PM PST by Weirdad (A Free Republic, not a "democracy" (mob rule))
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To: yorkie
The problem you cite is not the reason costs are high, but it contributes. It is only one more example of Federal fascism in medicine and everywhere else.

The US do not just permit medical care. They subsidize it! The several United States of America, with Federal coercion, basically ALL have programs that INTENTIONALLY provide predictable, long-term, expensive services to aliens.

For example, in Texas there is a "Title V" program (link) that provides completely free pre-natal care and delivery to pregnant women who for some reason do not qualify for Medicaid, but would have qualified based on "income."

The alien mother-to-be is actually identified as a non-citizen (but no questions are asked about her lack of a valid social security number or whether or not she is here legally), and therefore, since as an alien she does not qualify for Medicaid, she is instead qualified into the "Title V" program. No one can say anything about an illegal immigration status because it would “violate medical confidentiality.” Then, after nine months of free services, she has her baby in a US hospital, and the baby is instantly a US citizen in the Medicaid program. There are hundreds of babies born in this manner every day in Texas, and in many cases the mother returns here over and over for each pregnancy. This kind of American kind-heartedness with utterly no political blowback here in the States or back to Mexico makes it even easier for the corrupt Mexican government to continue to mistreat its own people.

And what do you think, would anyone who questions this unconstitutional mess be branded a racist?

44 posted on 01/20/2008 9:33:26 PM PST by Weirdad (A Free Republic, not a "democracy" (mob rule))
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To: Weirdad

Remember Section 4507 of the 1997 Balance Budget Act on hillary’s health care?


45 posted on 01/20/2008 10:10:24 PM PST by Travelgirl
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To: Travelgirl
Unfortunately. Great AAPS page though (see last section about that act): JUDGE SANCTIONS CLINTON ADMINISTRATION.
46 posted on 01/20/2008 11:56:16 PM PST by Weirdad (A Free Republic, not a "democracy" (mob rule))
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To: org.whodat

Two years ago I had a stent put in. I was in the intensive care for two days after. The bill was 83 grand. Lucky enough that my wife had ins thru her place of work. I cant get ins on my own now because of this.

I dont konw what is the way to go. Certainly, they have to get after the lawyers first, then the insurance co second. Then if the medical com dont drop their prices get after them also.

I personally know of folks who are real sick and dont go because they would have to file for bankruptcy if they did go. The people of this whole country are living on the very edge in economic ways.


47 posted on 01/21/2008 6:24:28 AM PST by crz
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The man I mentioned had insurance. That is not the thing that pisses me off. It is the two price system and the flat out over charging while some half ass hospital administrator make a million plus a year salary.
48 posted on 01/21/2008 8:11:25 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: org.whodat

Oh I hear ya! The gull dam greed in this country is at a fever pitch.

I wonder what good all this money is gonna do them one minute after they die? Maybe a fancy hole in the ground?

As for me..gimme enough to live on and enjoy the simple things in life. Thats all I want. Except its getting so I cant even afford those.


49 posted on 01/21/2008 9:01:18 AM PST by crz
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