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Critically ill [Canadian] patients rushed to U.S. for care
Globe and Mail ^ | Jan 19, 2008

Posted on 01/20/2008 10:34:27 AM PST by John Jorsett

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To: FormerACLUmember
Where will the poor Canadians go if Hillary wins?

Where will Americans go...

21 posted on 01/20/2008 11:57:10 AM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Or the VA...


22 posted on 01/20/2008 12:07:37 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: John Jorsett

Homer says, “MMmmmmmmm, socialized medicine.....aaaaaaaagghh”


23 posted on 01/20/2008 12:12:10 PM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: John Jorsett

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24 posted on 01/20/2008 12:14:31 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: John Jorsett

Bookmarked.


25 posted on 01/20/2008 12:20:29 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: John Jorsett

Thanks!


26 posted on 01/20/2008 12:21:55 PM PST by grundle
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To: John Jorsett
I was just in Costa Rica where locals bragged that Hillary when elected was going to emulate the Costa Rican health system.

I stopped by the hospital.

Access to a line is not the same thing as access to health care.

27 posted on 01/20/2008 12:48:40 PM PST by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: pepsionice
Competition of services is the only way that we will drive them down, and it simply isn’t happening.

The whole tax structure of hospitals and ownership needs to be addressed. The American medical association needs to be run out of the country.

28 posted on 01/20/2008 1:08:02 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: John Jorsett

Lost my Canadian Aunt and Uncle within a year of one another. Uncle was having a simple hernia repair operation when he suffered a massive heart attack on the table...and they couldn’t save him.

Aunt had stomach cancer. By the time she finally got to the top of the list for surgery to remover her tumors, it was too late and she, too, died after they opened her up, shrugged, sewed her back up and sent her home.

Yep. I can’t WAIT for FREE health care in America. /sarcasm


29 posted on 01/20/2008 1:10:44 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: long hard slogger; FormerACLUmember; Harrius Magnus; Lynne; hocndoc; parousia; Hydroshock; ...
Socialized Medicine aka Universal Health Care PING LIST

FReepmail me if you want to be added to or removed from this ping list.


30 posted on 01/20/2008 1:23:47 PM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: org.whodat
I just really don’t care anymore what the democrats do

Then your friend won't have any health care at all b/c socialism causes shortages.

The high cost of health care is a direct result of government, and health insurance paid for by employers, so why would you look to the very people who have caused this problem to fix it? (BTW: some of it was caused on purpose/by design just so people like you would look to the government to "fix it"...one thing that did pass the last time Hillary was going to fix health care was that: giving a patient a break on costs = insurance fraud so patients by law have to be charged what insurance is charged....and those rates are high b/c insurance can opt not to pay it and routinely pays less than charged. Thanks Hillary! and now I'm suppose to look for her to fix a problem she caused?!)

Another thing: Take a look at how much of the costs of care are a result of lawyers. And we want lawyers to "fix it". no thanks.
31 posted on 01/20/2008 1:44:22 PM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: John Jorsett; xzins

2 related snippets from Germany:

-A dear friend of the family is from Germany. Her mother was visiting her in the States. The mother had been having chest pain but was being treated with medicine because seh was considered to old for surgery in Germany. American surgeons did bypass surgery.

-An acquaintance took a job working for a base in Germany as a local national employee rather than as a GS. The health insurance appealed to him. As a “local national” he is paying the German income tax of 50%. Oh, and then there is the 19% Value added tax, TV tax, church tax and on and on it goes.


32 posted on 01/20/2008 2:02:36 PM PST by Gamecock (Aaron had what every mega-church pastor craves: a huge crowd that gave freely and lively worship.)
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33 posted on 01/20/2008 2:05:29 PM PST by VOA
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Where will Americans go...

After we get Hillary/Canadian care we can go to Mexico for emergency health care or Cuba. Moore says Cuba has world leading health care why doesn't the Canadian government send their very sick there?

34 posted on 01/20/2008 2:12:24 PM PST by engrpat
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To: John Jorsett

I have an uncle in Manitoba that needed heart surgery. He lived in a small town 300 miles from Winnipeg. They (the ambulance) drove to the big city and the hospital examined him. He had had a heart attack. Sent him BACK to the small city for a week, then brought him back to Winnipeg, told him he needed a three way bypass, flew in a doctor from New York for the surgery, and he gave him a five way bypass. Of course, he had been a city counsel member some years back. My uncle is VERY fortunate that he is still alive and didn’t die.

Another uncle was not so fortunate and he could only get a bed just before he died. He had only been an average joe sales man.

My mom does not believe the city counsel uncle had any special treatment. I do.


35 posted on 01/20/2008 2:12:52 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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I remember clearly when in Germany, and we lived in the German community rather than the Army base, the locals speaking of those who were deemed better made comfortable than treated.

Apparently, they practice planned obsolescence rather than repair.


36 posted on 01/20/2008 3:25:00 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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The waits, in some instances, have had devastating consequences

It is far cheaper for Canadian socialized health care to issue a death certificate than to treat a live Canadian.

But, either way ...... It's FREE!!!

37 posted on 01/20/2008 3:29:19 PM PST by Polybius
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To: org.whodat

That’s an unthinking emotional statement typical of the very people I suspect you despise, democrats and communists and fascists. I think you shot from the hip and are NOT a liberal but that comment sure makes you sound like one.

The bill and the actual cost are of course different, and however high they are it is a direct result of what the fascists have already done by force over a period of YEARS to the free market in this land.

Moreover, the medical system would be happy to provide 1960s level care at a very cheap price but when people demand absolutely the best care with minimal risks, care that was not even possible a few years back, then why is it any surprise that it is expensive.


38 posted on 01/20/2008 4:02:22 PM PST by Weirdad (A Free Republic, not a "democracy" (mob rule))
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To: yorkie; pepsionice
Deny all medical services (except for life-saving measures) to everyone in this country illegally.

What're you living in a fantasy world? Those in office...just know how to pander to illegals and Mexico. It'll NEVER happen.

39 posted on 01/20/2008 6:37:15 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Weirdad
by force over a period of YEARS to the free market in this land.

There has not been a free market in the medical profession for nearly all of my life. As long as the America medical association is allowed to control the number of medical schools and students. And thus the number of doctors and to further fix the market where a start up hospital would need to provide a certificate of need to be licensed, it is a fixed market.

40 posted on 01/20/2008 6:38:44 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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