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Huckabee Blames Thompson for His Second Place Showing as GOP Candidate Race Against McCain
FoxNews.com ^ | Sunday, January 20, 2008 | Foxnews's Serafin Gomez and The Associated Press

Posted on 01/20/2008 4:48:02 PM PST by Terriergal

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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

You’re kidding right?


141 posted on 01/22/2008 4:08:11 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Terriergal

Sorry, no. Who the heck is Rick Warren?

Hank


142 posted on 01/22/2008 5:12:38 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball ("Huckabee is the bastard child of Lou Dobbs and Pat Robertson." - Jonah Goldberg)
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To: Terriergal

OK, never mind, I just googled him. He’s the founder and pastor of the Saddleback Church in California. Very large church, I guess.

Should I know the name of the pastor of every megachurch in the country? I’d get a D- on that test because the only name I’d know is Bill Hybels, and only because I lived very near the Willow Creek Church for many years.

Hank


143 posted on 01/22/2008 5:15:57 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball ("Huckabee is the bastard child of Lou Dobbs and Pat Robertson." - Jonah Goldberg)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

You’re blessed not to know.... Here... I just posted this on a different thread (post 28):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1954886/posts?page=28#28

A small sampling of articles/interviews.

Wall Street Journal Article
VENERATION GAP: A POPULAR STRATEGY FOR CHURCH GROWTH SPLITS CONGREGANTS
Across U.S., Members Divide
On Making Sermons, Music
More ‘Purpose-Driven’
No More ‘Wrath of God’?
http://www.apprising.org/archives/2006/09/veneration_gap_1.html

How to transition an established church – Part 1
by Chuck McAlister
http://www.pastors.com/RWMT/article.asp?ArtID=4702

How to transition an established church – Part 2
by Chuck McAlister
http://www.pastors.com/RWMT/article.asp?ArtID=4701

How to transition an established church – Part 3
by Chuck McAlister
http://www.pastors.com/RWMT/article.asp?ArtID=4768

Changing worship: how to transition an established church – Part 4
by Chuck McAlister
http://www.pastors.com/RWMT/article.asp?ArtID=4811

Give ministry to the people: how to transition an established church – Part 5
by Chuck McAlister
http://www.pastors.com/RWMT/article.asp?ArtID=4844

Moving your Education Ministry to Life-Empowerment: how to transition an established church – Part 6
by Chuck McAlister
http://www.pastors.com/RWMT/article.asp?ArtID=4667

Many purpose driven critiques
http://www.extremetheology.com/purpose_driven_critique/index.html

The Gospel: A Method or a Message?
How the Purpose Driven Life Obscures the Gospel
http://cicministry.org/commentary/issue80.htm

Redefining Christianity Radio Broadcasts
http://cicministry.org/radio_series.php?series=redefining

A Berean’s Discernment Tool
for The Purpose Driven Life
http://cicministry.org/berean.php

Easter Region Media Watch discernment ministry collection on Church Growth movement:
http://www.erwm.com/Church%20Growth%20Movement.htm

Purpose Driven Confusion
http://www.erwm.com/PDConfusion.htm

There’s Ingrid Schlueter’s Crosstalk
http://www.vcyamerica.org/crosstalk/crosstalk.htm
especially the August 12 show from this year here:
http://67.36.84.226/crosstalk/ct050812.asf (various callers testifying about what is happening in their churches, with James Sundquist)
http://67.36.84.226/crosstalk/ct050811.asf (part 1 of the same show)

In addition Rick doesn’t think anything of lying to someone like Joseph Farah in an attempt to protect his reputation, and then turning around and smearing Farah and any other detractors publicly, questioning their motives for critiquing his teachings. (because of course there couldn’t possibly be ANYTHING WRONG that we could legitimately be pointing out...)

The purpose Driven Lie
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52969
Thursday, November 16, 2006 by Joseph Farah — “For a long time I’ve held off criticizing mega-church leader Rick Warren,...”

Megapastor Rick Warren’s Damascus Road experience (Joseph Farah)
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53030

Rick Warren disciples: Where are you?
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 by Joseph Farah
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53048

Calling Rick Warren!
Wednesday, November 22, 2006 by Joseph Farah
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53007

Rick Warren on Syria: ‘A moderate country’
Sunday, November 26, 2006 by Joseph Farah
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53092

Warren defender: Change the subject
Tuesday, November 28, 2006 by Joseph Farah — New Age leader Marianne Williamson has come to the aid of “The Purpose-Driven Life” author Rick Warren...
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53116

Rick Warren says he’s sorry
Wednesday, November 29, 2006 by Joseph Farah — “I received the following apology from Rick Warren Sunday night:”
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53135

Rick Warren continues to deceive
Friday, December 15, 2006 by Joseph Farah — “I’m ready to let go of the Rick Warren-in-Syria controversy – just as soon as Rick Warren stops deceiving people...”
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53372

There you go, again, Rick Warren!
Tuesday, December 26, 2006 by Joseph Farah
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53502

Rick Warren: Is he or isn’t he?
Tuesday, January 09, 2007 by Joseph Farah — “Who are you going to believe – Rick Warren or your own eyes? That’s the dilemma I face...”
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53688

The last Rick Warren column
Tuesday, January 16, 2007 by Joseph Farah — “Last week, in the latest of a series of columns I have written about mega-church leader Rick Warren, I wondered out loud about mixed signals coming from Saddleback Church.”
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53773

Rick Warren says I’m wrong, again
Thursday, May 17, 2007 by Joseph Farah — “Rick Warren Chief of Staff David Chrzan wrote to me last week to say WorldNetDaily made “some errors in definition, assumption and application” in our news story about the mega-pastor’s relationship with Rupert Murdoch.”
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55723

Rick Warren’s Inquisition
Friday, November 30, 2007 by Joseph Farah
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58942
— “While mega-pastor Rick Warren has joined a group of 100 church leaders calling for interfaith dialogue and the building of “common ground” with Muslims, he has a slightly different outlook toward toward Christians with whom he disagrees.

In his latest missive to fellow pastors, he writes: “You’ve got to protect the unity of your church. If that means getting rid of troublemakers, do it.”

Why Warren embraces Hillary
Monday, December 03, 2007 by Joseph Farah
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58986
“It’s more than an effort at bipartisanship and consensus-building that causes Saddleback Church Pastor Rick Warren to embrace Hillary Clinton in his efforts to battle AIDS.

It is the fact that they share a mistaken and dangerous commitment to expensive, extra-constitutional, globe-trotting, international socialist spending policies by the U.S. government in waging that battle. “

Rick Warren’s distortions of reality
Thursday, December 13, 2007 by Joseph Farah
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59183
“Rick Warren loves to apologize for things he didn’t do, for things other people did that weren’t wrong, even for things that occurred hundreds of years before he was born.

For instance, he recently apologized to Muslims worldwide for atrocities committed against their ancestors during the Crusades.

He also recently apologized for American “excesses in the war on terrorism.”

And he has apologized for the church because it hasn’t done enough about the spread of AIDS and problems like global warming.

Yet, I must observe that despite his predilection for apologies, he has a great deal of trouble owning up to his own personal mistakes. “

Global warming and Christian discernment
Wednesday, December 12, 2007 by Joseph Farah
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59124
“One the macro level, we see Rick Warren and other evangelical leaders insisting global warming is a real crisis that should be a preoccupation of the church and a focus of government action.

Now, Warren tells WND his signing of the “Evangelical Climate Initiative” was misinterpreted. “

Rick Warren: ‘I always own up to mistakes’
‘Purpose-driven’ megachurch pastor answers evangelical critics
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59110

Rick Warren: ‘I never wanted fame’
But pastor with global vision says he ‘loves making an influence’
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59161

Rick Warren: AIDS too big for church alone
Traditional values challenged in unusual alliance to combat disease
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59181

Incidentally, up through last year he was saying that the ONLY thing that could handle these five big GLOBAL GIANTS was the church... well now he’s changing that... kinda like Animal Farm. He revises as he goes, never acknowledging he was wrong before. (in spite of his insistence that he owns up to his mistakes).

http://www.purposedrivel.com/2007/12/rick-warren-does-two-step-yet-again.html


144 posted on 01/22/2008 5:24:19 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Terriergal

Yikes, that’s quite a battle they’ve got brewing there.

Should I also know Chuck Mcalister and Joseph Farah?

Actually...that last name does sound a bit familiar, though I couldn’t tell you offhand who he is.

Hank


145 posted on 01/22/2008 5:28:47 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball ("Huckabee is the bastard child of Lou Dobbs and Pat Robertson." - Jonah Goldberg)
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