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Illinois HB4259

Posted on 01/22/2008 8:31:21 AM PST by Papabear47

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To: Old Teufel Hunden
You guys in Idaho still believe in the militia. If you get anyone with a Hillary bumper sticker on their car move into the neighborhood, just send the militia over to have a talk with them.

18 posted on 01/21/2008 12:05:01 PM CST by Old Teufel Hunden

You seem to be advocating violence against people who support Hillary, intimidation at the very least, neither is acceptable in a free society.

Further you even contradict yourself with your opinions about felons owning guns:

The constitution (in the 5th and 14th amendments) allow for the provision of denying convicted felons civil liberties.

12 posted on 01/16/2008 3:06:25 PM CST by Old Teufel Hunden

I agree, non violent crimes should have their 2A rights restored.

20 posted on 01/17/2008 6:17:51 AM CST by Old Teufel Hunden

21 posted on 01/22/2008 11:46:01 AM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58

“You seem to be advocating violence against people who support Hillary, intimidation at the very least, neither is acceptable in a free society.”

There you go again, lying about what I said. You can’t even comprehend the explanation in my previous post. Then you go onto throw more lines out that I have posted in the past. You sure you’re not a Dumbocrat? You’re good at distorting the truth after all...

All of this is to distort what the subject really was. You obviously don’t want to talk about it. I originally posted about the sheeple of Illinois which you took offense to.

I explained what sheeple were. People who sit there and take it. Just not voting for the people who do it to you is not good enough. You have three choices:

1. Become sheeple
2. Get involved and try to stop the gun grabbers
3. Move

By your attempt at obfuscation you are showing me and everyone else on this board that you are in category 1. You have decided to sit and take it.

If you displayed the same dilligence in trying to stop your state’s gun grabbers as you do researching my past posts you might be able to move into group 2 some day.


22 posted on 01/22/2008 11:59:14 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: lakeman

Your link yields the Illinois House website for a social security bill. Where is the page for the ammo-related matter mentioned at the beginning of the thread?


23 posted on 01/22/2008 12:21:06 PM PST by kiriath_jearim
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To: Papabear47

FYI, the correct bill is H4258, not 59.


24 posted on 01/22/2008 12:24:25 PM PST by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

When you go to the Illinois General Assembly website you find Both HB4258 and 59 as Ammunition accountability Act.Why I do not know,just the way our crooks do things.


25 posted on 01/22/2008 1:06:54 PM PST by Papabear47
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To: Papabear47

It must be a typo on the official website. Anyway, thanks for the heads up.


26 posted on 01/22/2008 1:10:11 PM PST by kiriath_jearim
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

The last reply of yours I bothered to read was #17. Go on huffing and puffing though, maybe some one else will read it.


27 posted on 01/22/2008 1:15:12 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58

“The last reply of yours I bothered to read was #17. “

It shows, you must be brain dead sheeple...


28 posted on 01/23/2008 4:23:01 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Graybeard58
Absolutely not....It is just arrogant and very ignorant people who would think so....We have to fight the corruption of Chitcago and Springfield not to mention a justice system that turns a blind eye on the vote fraud that takes place every election....Chitcago has a motto....Vote early,vote often and the left uses any tactic, Unconstitutional or not to pass the bill’s they want into law....And the entitlement class goes along so they may have their bowl of rice every day.
29 posted on 01/23/2008 10:13:23 AM PST by Papabear47
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To: Papabear47
Someone needs to call out the authoritarian anarchists(*) for what they are. They believe in forcing everyone to live under their rules, replacing legitimate rule of law.

(*) I coined the term myself, but then googled it to find I'm not the first.

30 posted on 01/28/2008 11:29:19 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: Kirkwood
I'll take one of these and to hell with the coded info
31 posted on 01/28/2008 11:33:56 PM PST by Loud Mime (Life was better when cigarette companies could advertise and lawyers could not - me)
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To: Papabear47

I take it this is being pushed by some of Obama’s buddies in the Illinois State House????


32 posted on 03/03/2008 3:02:22 PM PST by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: DuncanWaring

It would ban all forms of reloading, including the materials used to make or prepare such reloading. So I would guess bullet molds could be contraband.


33 posted on 03/03/2008 3:03:42 PM PST by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: TheBattman
So I would guess bullet molds could be contraband.

By strict interpretation of the law, then so would be wheel weights, and shotgun pellets.

34 posted on 03/03/2008 3:29:14 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

And do you think liberals really care what side-affects their legislation might cause? Of course not. They don’t care.

I have a friend who works at the Remington Arms Ammunition plant near here. He said that when California tried to force a similar law, the company had already discussed the concept and decided that complying with the law was essentially impossible. They produce literally MILLIONS of rounds of ammo EVERY DAY - and that is just the Arkansas plant.

The law is completely impractical (which I believe the liberals know). Thus it is a tacit ban on ammunition.


35 posted on 03/04/2008 4:57:36 AM PST by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: TheBattman

Should these laws ever actually start to go into effect, we’ll know the awkward phase is essentially over.


36 posted on 03/04/2008 5:43:15 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

I think we should take the passage of such laws (and application/enforcement) as a definite sign...


37 posted on 03/04/2008 11:28:02 AM PST by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: BigEdLB

Even if this passed, do you think we “sheeple” of Illinois would obey it?


38 posted on 03/04/2008 11:31:28 AM PST by abishai
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