Skip to comments.Rudy Now Trails in NY, NJ, CT, and FL (Also Continues Tanking in National Polls)
Posted on 01/22/2008 8:48:14 AM PST by TitansAFC
Latest Polls: Today, January 22nd (Some start back from the 17th)
New Jersey (Rasmussen):
New Jersey (Monmouth/Gannett):
Florida (Survey USA):
Don't rest, my FRiends, Rudy still needs to be stopped - starting with Florida in one week!!!!!!!!
E-mail/ping me if you want on/off the list! SPREAD THE WORD!!!
Be diligent my FRiends, Rudy must be stopped!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
He most certainly HAS!!!!...lol
Rudy is toast.
McCain is leading in every state, other than Florida?
The question is will Mitt pander qickly enough to take the lead?
The guy that needs to be stopped is McLame. If Mr. Amnesty is the nominee I’m voting Constitution Party, even if it is Ron Paul.
Rudy and the Huckster have had their day in the spot light.
It will be between McPain and Mitt.
Rudy should drop out and endorse John Cox! The MSM will be saying this at any moment because Rooty is such a threatening conservative...
This is one of the amazing stories of this cycle.
Alas, it appears that it is McCain who is putting it to Rudy. Not sure that is much by way of improvement - and it might even be a negative in terms of electability (if the only goal is to beat her).
In any event, the collapse of Rudy in places like NJ and NY is nothing less than astonishing.
OK. So Now what? The “Stop Rudy” movement appears to have locked in a McCain nomination. Most of those states are winner take all states. If McCain wins them all he’ll be well on his way to the nomination. Hope you are happy with that outcome.
Rudy is toast. This just confirms what happened in the early states.
Its down to Romney v McCain.
Romney has a shot by winning Florida then getting the momentum to win a lot of Feb 5th states, but if McCain wins Florida, it looks like he will sweep on Feb 5th.
Proamnesty-antiBushtaxcuts-proCO2caps-CFR-RINO John McCain delenda est!
Rudy is receiving three times the free media that Mitt is. The MSM wants yet another comeback.
Since the Boston Patriots and New Jersey Giants are going to the Super Bowl, the entire Northeast has turned off politics and forgotten about Rudy.
McCain is leading in every state, other than Florida”
Here is the only way that McCain will NOT be the nominee. It is if Romney wins in FL and somehow that vaults him ahead in all of the 2/5 states where McCain has now overtaken Rudy.
I am amazed at the bounce McCain has gotten b/c of NH and SC. Incredible, really.
By the way...I am ALL for Thune in 12!!!!!
I will be very happy when Giuliani and McCain are both eliminated.
Revenge of the babies.
Unless Romney wins in Florida, this looks like McCain is going to storm through on Super Tuesday.
Giuliani is history.
Mitt needs to win in Florida and beat Mclame and Rootie.
Name a state in that south that Romney can win, Feb 5 or in the general.
Not including FL.
“Rudy is receiving three times the free media that Mitt is. The MSM wants yet another comeback.”
Yeah .... anyone but Mitt who COULD defeat the Demoncrat, Hillary. Hillary will get the Demoncratic nomination by hook or crook.
Rudy's HUGE, GIGANTIC DROP IS ABSOLUTELY ASTOUNDING!!!!
(especially given the fact that he had 'name recognition' that most candidates could only dream of in their wildest dreams--and name recognition that millions and millions of dollars CANNOT BUY!!!) Just think--it was only a few months ago that Huckabee was a complete unknown.
Well, FReepers got what they wanted - a tanking Rudy.
And McCain in his place. Not much of a switch.
Way way back when people were saying (was it Bob Novak?) that McCain was the establishment candidate, I thought they must be nuts. Never happen. Now I’m starting to think that’s who we’re gonna get.
>All RINOs need to be stopped!
Just vote Democrat. That will stop ‘em.
“Mitt needs to win in Florida and beat Mclame and Rootie.”
The Huckelbilly is toast - he hasn’t got the money and his small base won’t carry him. He’d lose on the national level. Hucks appeal is to the ignornat humanist that doesn’t know what Christianity is - financed by socialism.
I really liked Rooty’s brilliant strategy of taking himself out of the race and savin’ it all for Florida!
That worked about as well as his brilliant strategy of leaving all the emergency centers in the WOT after knowing they were a target before he took office.
Doesn’t that show us all what a great man of strategy he would be if POTUS? /s
I can’t imagine anyone here on FR is going to celebrate McCain leading the polls. McCain has stood strong on Iraq, and he deserves admiration on that. Outside of that fact, he is nothing but a thorn in the side of conservatism. Rudy is not a social conservative but he represents a much stronger fiscal and foreign policy side than McCain. McCain my be pro-life, but he is a pending disaster for the cause due to his main goal of ‘getting along’ with the Washington elite and media.
My first two choices are now falling precipitously ...
Giuliani’s almost done.
So — Romney, I guess?
Perhaps, New Yorkers realize that real heroes put on uniforms and serve their country, rather than make stump speeches in front of a burning building.
Is Romney campaigning in any southern states other than Florida?
Rudy’s HUGE, GIGANTIC DROP IS ABSOLUTELY ASTOUNDING!!!!”
The big question for many months was, can Giuliani really kick everyone’s butt in FL and on Feb. 5 if he foregoes all the early states. For MONTHS it looked like the answer was yes. He led by over 40 points at one time in NJ.
But then, as these early states rolled in Giuliani was way down at the bottom in Ron Paul/Fred Thompson territory, I guess people in these 2/5 states started to re-think.
So, now, it appears there is a crystal clear answer to the question of whether he can ignore everything before FL. The answer is not just “no” but “HELL NO”. And it appears that not only will he not dominate 2/5, he will not even hold in NJ and NY. Amazing!
EXACTLY!!! It's unbelievable.
He had name recognition that millions and millions of dollars cannot buy,,,,name recognition that any candidate could ONLY DREAM OF,,,,a huge lead in the polls (about a 20% lead,,,with almost 40% of Republicans having him as their preference).
He was a huge front-runner---way ahead of everyone.
But,,,BUT,,,Rudy had his OWN grand strategy--to completely throw all of that away--and go 'all-in' in Florida.
Amazing. Great foresight.
You talked to Fred? That deserves a post of its own!
Excellent news. He is even trailing in NY, and for good measure the NY Times ran a hit piece on the former mayor.
Maybe his “campaign” will go down as one of the most inept in modern history.
But,,,BUT,,,Rudy had his OWN grand strategy—to completely throw all of that away—and go ‘all-in’ in Florida.”
If you think about it, his strategy was sort of like Thompson’s. They both wanted to do it ala Sinatra.
Well, it doesn’t work that way. From a campaign perspective, at least Huckabee and Romney have competed in every state and McCain has competed everywhere but Iowa. They did not try to do it their own way, they tried to play by the normal rules. But the two guys who didn’t want to go the traditional routes, Giuliani and Thompson, might collectively get less than ten delegates.
“Pander enough” Please, that’s been McCain’s schtick. Claim you are ‘straight talking’ while stating liberal talking points, pandering to the press and the liberal/moderates and then laying it on thick about service to country so you get enough of the conservatives to fall for the RINO who was once a war hero.
McCain is outlying and out-pandering to the max.
He is running ads in Florida about getting tough on immigration and closing the border. If the Huckster can flip-flop on immigration so fast and so hard, why not him?
This what we are getting, as stated on a Ambinder blog:
“Especially one with a fighter jock “my way or the highway attitude” (sound familiar) who graduated 895th in a class of 899 in the Naval Academy, and was passed over for admiral for flaws in the knowledge needed to lead navy people from the top, as well as character and temperment flaws.”
Proamnesty-antiBushtaxcuts-proCO2caps-CFR-RINO John McCain delenda est!
Hilla-republic is what this place will be when McCain wins the nomination, with all the FReepers taking their marbles and going home. Say, “Madame President Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton” enough times, people. Fully appreciate what that phrase means: watching her pantsuited ass and listening to that god-awful shrill, shouting voice of hers. Wake up, people. We need to all commit to supporting McCain if that’s who gets the nomination.
“I cant imagine anyone here on FR is going to celebrate McCain leading the polls.”
Certainly not me. Rudy is a goner anyway, but between McCain and Romney, Romney is much better.
Mitt Romney would be better on taxes and spending than McCain.
Mitt Romney would be better on judges and life than McCain.
“cCain my be pro-life, but he is a pending disaster for the cause due to his main goal of getting along with the Washington elite and media.”
If he loses Florida--where he has virtually LIVED for the last few months--his campaign will have exceeded Howard Dean's when it comes to ineptitude (and Rudy didn't even have to scream...lol)!!!
It will be the mismanagement standard,,,,and 'model',,,for all future "how-NOT-to-run-a-campaign" strategies!! After all, how many candidates have EVER blown a lead as big as the one he had??
I cannot say for sure that he’s out. I can say that his chances are almost negligible, and diminishing rapidly. Perhaps he could win in a brokered convention ... but, it wouldn’t surprise me if he drops out before my state (Texas) votes — and I’d be equally unsurprised if Giuliani is out before Texas.
I’m scrounging for a third choice.
Romney has polled well in Missouri and Kansas in the primaries.
And in the general, the south will coalesce around whoever is the Republican. Add to that that Romney can bring us Michigan in the general and it’s huge 17 ECVs, and Romney is very viable in the general.
The buzz is Rudy Giuliani may have made a "great mistake by not campaigning in New Hampshire".....
Baloney. That's an old trick---manipulating voters.
Giuliani recently announced his top staffers are working gratis---b/c Giuliani wants voters to think he managed to spend all his campaign money without having actually competed in any of the early primary/caucus states.
The truth is that Rudy spent all his money because he HAS competed in all those states, and lost dismally. The number of times Rooty went to New Hampshire to campaign was second only to Romney.
Rudy just CLAIMS he hasn't been competing because the results show he is a bigtime loser, rejected by primary/caucus voters.
Although Giuliani talks big, and tries to cast himself as a warrior/hero, he cuts and runs when he feels competitive pressure. He chickened out of the Senate race vs. Hillary. More recently, he cut and run in Iowa, New Hampshire, Michigan, and now South Carolina.
He's the gutless wonder....a talker, not a doer. He wins Florida or loses whatever credibility he has left (not much).
Poetic justice for the "hero," who made some speeches after 9/11.
I agree. But my comment about Rudy going ‘all-in’ in Florida is not completely accurate either. After all, Rudy made 40 trips to New Hampshire,,,,and spent $5 million there—until finally realizing that they had no use for him in NH, at which time—he pulled out. That should have told him something right there.