Posted on 01/22/2008 12:28:56 PM PST by BGHater
Identity theft is already child’s play, and she neglects to address how this will affect our twenty million uninvited guests.
I hate articles that use “Amerika” “Amerikkka” etc. It’s childish. It’s usually leftists who do this, but sometimes far right nutters too.
People who oppose Real I.D. tend to have a not-very-secret open borders agenda. Wihtout some verifyable form of ID attempts to stop illegal invasion will falter. I heard Chertoff on the radio being interviewed. Today the border patrol has something like 1,000 types of ID that people can use to gain entry to the USA. (They are cutting that way down shortly.)
“If this law is actually implemented, it will mean the end of privacy and freedom. “
I find it hard to take her seriously when she makes statements like this.
We already have a National ID card. It’s called the social security card. It consists of a piece of paper, a number and a name. As far as I can tell it is the most easily forged combination of elements you can get to still be considered an ID.
Just wait until you have to have your ID scanned before starting your car.
This’ll be no more an intrusion on freedom than a driver’s license is. You’ve got to show it everytime you’re pulled over, and to cash checks or use credit cards. The Texas Gov’t didn’t use my driver’s license to “end freedom”.
H
Real-ID isn’t a good thing, especially in the hands of the DNC.
Anyone who fails to see what the Dems are going to do with it once they have control, is a fool.
Do Stalin’s purges ring a bell here?
And the only places that are legally allowed to use your SSN are your employer and your bank. And we see hoe THAT is abused.
Sure. Of course this whole argument is academic. It won’t be long before they do away with ID cards and just go to an implantable RFID chip that you will have to have and they will require all babies chipped at birth. It’s for terrorism and illegal aliens, you won’t mind the intrusion.
Its not the ID itself that is most troubling, but its the incremental chipping away of our liberty. Every law the government passes makes us less and less free. We have to lick the boots of high school dropout TSA employees to get on a flight. We work for half of the year to pay the IRS. Our internet use is monitored. Our liberty is eroded in hundreds of small ways every day that adds up to us being slaves of our Government.
>> Sure. Of course this whole argument is academic. It won’t be long before they do away with ID cards and just go to an implantable RFID chip that you will have to have and they will require all babies chipped at birth. It’s for terrorism and illegal aliens, you won’t mind the intrusion.
That was a big leap.
H
We ALREADY have DL cards.
This law is stating the minimum standards for those cards.
Don’t want a DL? State ID? don’t get one.
This just means all states have to have the same standard. No more weak link states.
Perhaps not so large a leap.
10 years? Maybe 25? Certainly less that 50.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1595550208/qid=1122390116/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-0153237-3698200?v=glance
You don’t need to implant anythign.
Biometric data will know who you are.
Smile a satelite just photographed you...
Provided we lock up the terrorists and deport the illegals, I won't mind occasionally showing an authority figure my drivers' liscence.
Provided we lock up the terrorists and deport the illegals, I won't mind occasionally showing an authority figure my drivers' liscence.
>> Perhaps not so large a leap. 10 years? Maybe 25? Certainly less that 50.
This is classic straw-man garbage — take a reasonable measure to absurd proportions, and argue against the absurdity.
The leap was assuming I would be OK with forced implantation of a device simply because I have no problem with an ID requirement. One is a reasonable security measure, with little downside and little to no intrusion on the rights of the individual — the other is not.
H
>> There’s nothing more that the government would like to do than track your every movement, and then tax it.
OK. So? I have a state ID in my wallet right now (and I’ve had one for well over a decade) ... and nobody in my state is tracking me.
ID requirements are neither unreasonable nor particularly intrusive.
H
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