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IBM Riles Employees With Base Pay Cuts
Associated Press ^ | January 23, 2008 | BRIAN BERGSTEIN

Posted on 01/23/2008 9:42:02 AM PST by decimon

IBM Riles Employees With Base Pay Cuts By BRIAN BERGSTEIN (AP Technology Writer) From Associated Press January 23, 2008 10:58 AM EST

BOSTON - Even as IBM Corp. reports record profits, thousands of its U.S. employees are staring at pay cuts.

It's the result of IBM's response to a lawsuit in which the company was accused of illegally withholding overtime pay from some technical employees. IBM settled the case for $65 million in 2006 and has now decided that it needs to reclassify 7,600 technical-support workers as eligible for overtime.

But their underlying salary - the base pay they earn for their first 40 hours of work each week - will be cut 15 percent to compensate.

IBM spokesman Fred McNeese said the move would not save the company any money, because the affected employees generally should find that overtime pay makes up for the salary cut.

However, internal documents obtained by The Associated Press indicate that many workers will lose money.

These documents, prepared for managers who have had to break the news to their underlings, say that one-third of the affected workers - more than 2,500 people - generally do not work enough hours to make up for the 15 percent cut in base pay. IBM is offering a one-time "transition payment" to reimburse affected workers for the losses they suffer in the first three months.

One slide presentation says managers should try to spread assignments around so that more employees work enough to pass the threshold - 5 hours of overtime per week - at which their new time-and-a-half pay would make up for the reduction in base salary. But the document also acknowledges that "hot skills and customer commitments may limit (the) opportunity to redistribute overtime."

IBM's McNeese would not comment on the documents' specific points. He said IBM had been paying these technical-support people at "market rates," and to grant them overtime without a corresponding reduction in base pay would make them too expensive.

One document, labeled a confidential "Q&A for customers," lists this sample question that an IBM client might ask: "What has been the reaction of employees who are being reclassified?"

The suggested response for managers: "They understand this is something we must do under current interpretations of the law and to remain competitive within our industry."

It is clear, however, that many employees are furious.

They worry that opportunities to work more than 40 hours per week - the point at which federal law requires overtime pay for eligible workers - will be reduced now that IBM has an incentive to trim employees' time on the clock.

One 20-year IBM veteran who usually works 50 to 52 hours a week - enough to come out ahead now that she can get paid overtime - expects to see her hours reduced.

"Anybody who's been in IBM knows that when they look to cut costs, that's where they're going to cut it," said the employee, who spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity because she fears reprisals from the company.

Even if they make enough overtime to compensate for the lower base pay, the IBM workers' now-reduced salaries will carry corresponding reductions in what they are eligible for in life insurance benefits and vacation or sick pay.

"I was so angry I could hardly speak, and it takes a lot to make me angry," the longtime employee said. "I just don't know how IBM expects us to take this and just run with it."

Most of the affected workers make less than $100,000, according to Lee Conrad, national coordinator for the Alliance at IBM, a Communications Workers of America union local that represents a small percentage of IBM employees. The group is considering pickets at IBM sites to protest.

On the surface, it would seem a surprising time for any IBM employees to find their compensation going down. The Armonk, N.Y.-based technology company earned $10.4 billion in 2007 and just raised its profit targets for 2008.

But more and more, IBM is depending on workers other than the ones hit by this change. IBM owes much of its current success to its increasing emphasis on international markets and on cheaper overseas labor. IBM's U.S. work force has remained around 125,000 in recent years, even as the company's overall head count has risen with international hires.

The decision on overtime stems from the settlement of a federal class-action lawsuit in San Francisco in which 32,000 technical workers accused IBM of illegally withholding overtime pay.

IBM had considered the employees highly skilled professionals exempt from overtime rules as defined in the Fair Labor Standards Act. The plaintiffs alleged that they were not executive decision-makers or creative types who can be ineligible for overtime.

Though that case was settled late in 2006, McNeese said IBM needed until now to determine how to comply with federal overtime laws. "We still think it's ambiguous," he said.

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On the Net:

Comments on union page about the cuts:

http://www.allianceibm.org/salarycomments.php


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1 posted on 01/23/2008 9:42:06 AM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

Welcome to deflation and the global economy, folks.

Nice: work 45 hours for the same pay as 40 hours used to supply.


2 posted on 01/23/2008 9:46:37 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: decimon

Bring lawsuit, get burned. If they don’t like their job, maybe they should find a new one instead of screwing it up for everyone else.


3 posted on 01/23/2008 9:47:27 AM PST by bolobaby
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To: decimon

If you are routinely staying 50+ hours a week in the office, it’s your own fault. Most of the people I have met who work long hours are either great time-wasters or incompetent. I knew some senior VP’s who worked those hours but they are were unable to delegate so they attended a lot of worthless meetings.

Of course, I have known people who just hung around the office because they thought it looked good. I worked with one guy who worked 60-70 and he was grossly incompetent. He spent a whole week working on a PowerPoint on diversity. Seventy hours on a freaking PowerPoint!!


4 posted on 01/23/2008 9:47:54 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: decimon

I have a hard time feeling any sympathy. Anyone in business knows that you usually pay emxempt staff at a higher base salary because they can’t get overtime pay. If you are going to sue to be classified as non-exempt in order ot be eligible for overtime, you shouldn’t be surprised when your base pay is adjusted accordingly.


5 posted on 01/23/2008 9:48:59 AM PST by CA Conservative
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To: decimon

How much of a pay cut is IBM corporate management going to take?


6 posted on 01/23/2008 9:49:15 AM PST by mysterio
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To: decimon

Well, IBM could farm out their work to India. Oh wait, they’ve already done that.


7 posted on 01/23/2008 9:49:26 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: bolobaby
Bring lawsuit, get burned. If they don’t like their job, maybe they should find a new one instead of screwing it up for everyone else.

Bingo!

We have a winner!

If you hate your employer and your job, find a different one. You're not a slave.

8 posted on 01/23/2008 9:49:38 AM PST by TChris ("if somebody agrees with me 70% of the time, rather than 100%, that doesn’t make him my enemy." -RR)
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To: decimon
One document, labeled a confidential "Q&A for customers," lists this sample question that an IBM client might ask: "What has been the reaction of employees who are being reclassified?"

The suggested response for managers: "They understand this is something we must do under current interpretations of the law and to remain competitive within our industry."

Funny how they know what the employees think before they think it.

9 posted on 01/23/2008 9:50:47 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: decimon
Having been a worker at IBM that they tried giving a paycut to, and having worked with people at IBM who stayed through paycuts, one of two things happen:

1) People quit (what I did)
2) People become lazy and/or steal.

It doesn't pay, Big Blue. This company has a moron management problem.
10 posted on 01/23/2008 9:50:53 AM PST by jack_napier (Bob? Gun.)
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To: mysterio
How much of a pay cut is IBM corporate management going to take?

Oh they will get large deferred compensation amounts and stock options out the wazoo.....you know....to stay competitive with the corporate market pay range.....so they don't suffer a talent drain.......(can you tell I've heard that one before?)

11 posted on 01/23/2008 9:54:18 AM PST by OB1kNOb (At this point , conservatism in the 2008 election is DOA.)
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To: decimon

All your base are belong to us.


12 posted on 01/23/2008 9:55:55 AM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: AppyPappy
Most of the people I have met who work long hours are either great time-wasters or incompetent.

Spoken like a middle manager...

13 posted on 01/23/2008 9:57:19 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: decimon

Either take a pay cut, or hit the street...that’s how it’s going for most jobs.


14 posted on 01/23/2008 9:57:20 AM PST by madison10
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To: mysterio

O, on the books they’ll show it, but bonus packages etc., will make up more than the difference as this is done to its mid level tech support people.


15 posted on 01/23/2008 9:58:24 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: OB1kNOb

“Oh they will get large deferred compensation amounts and stock options out the wazoo.....you know....to stay competitive with the corporate market pay range.....so they don’t suffer a talent drain.......(can you tell I’ve heard that one before?)”

But, the Indians work and study harder. In fact, many of the Indian schools are better than US schools. Guess what? The Indians study management too. I think it’s time to hire Indian execs at 1/4 of the rate of pay of American execs.

It is the responsible thing to do for the shareholders.


16 posted on 01/23/2008 9:58:53 AM PST by brownsfan (America has "jumped the shark")
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To: brownsfan
I think it’s time to hire Indian execs at 1/4 of the rate of pay of American execs.

Goose...gander...yep.

17 posted on 01/23/2008 10:00:51 AM PST by OB1kNOb (At this point , conservatism in the 2008 election is DOA.)
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To: AppyPappy
If you are routinely staying 50+ hours a week in the office, it’s your own fault.

Sorry, but I suspect most of these employees are out at customer locations on service calls and tied to a Call Management System that assigns their workload. When your customer's equipment is down, you don't drop tools at 17:00 and expect to keep your job. You sound like a typical marketing puke -- all flash, but nowhere to be found when problems come up.

18 posted on 01/23/2008 10:02:52 AM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: decimon

Wages follow our standard of living.


19 posted on 01/23/2008 10:04:57 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: HamiltonJay

There are really 3 types of people who put in the super hours:
suckers letting the company push them around
slackers who still aren’t getting 40 hours of work done but are great at putting on a show
workaholics

Where I currently work has a large collection of group 2. My favorite was the one who’d discuss her major work hours constantly, and yet somehow always got to work after me and the first thing she did after getting her morning coffee was call her aunt and talk to her for an hour. She might have spent twice as much time in the office as me every week but I guarantee she wasn’t getting as much work done.


20 posted on 01/23/2008 10:06:29 AM PST by discostu (a mountain is something you don't want to %^&* with)
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